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Olympus EP-1 - DSL-R Quality from a compact?

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Ichtor
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Message posted at 07/13/2009, 21:31:40 PM by Ichtor
I have just pre-ordered my Digital Pen, in silver with the 17mm pancake. This is the camera I've been waiting for a long time. Though I use a Canon 30D with quality lenses, I hate carrying that big and heavy system with me wherever I go, so the end result is that more often than not I leave everything home and skip on some potentially good photos.



Last year I was just about to buy a Canon G10 but luckily a friend lent me one for a day and it's a good thing he did because the noise even at ISO 100 is very bad (compared to my 30D) and definitely not good enough for stock. OK, it can definitely be processed but that's a lot of extra work and in the end the G10 wasn't worth it for me.



The E-P1 on the other hand is exactly what I need: a compact camera with DSLR-like image quality. It's not as compact as a G10 and I'd be hard pressed to carry it in my pocket but its sizes are almost identical to an old film Canonet that I have and I'm used to that.



Oh, I bought the E-P1 from money made from microstock. Ashes to ashes...
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Neddog
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Message posted at 07/18/2009, 21:00:21 PM by Neddog
I've had mine on pre-order since the end of June, too... but damned Olympus missed their shipment and I have no idea when they'll come in now! T_T



That's really good news Holgs, about the Aussie test-drive thing... I hope they can get you one to use (quicker than mine at least)! :D Well deserved, though....
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Ichtor
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Message posted at 07/20/2009, 20:25:41 PM by Ichtor
Can't wait to shoot some microstock with this puppy! I'm worried a bit about only using the pancake. I'm used to a whole set of lenses on my DSLR and it'll be a while until Oly releases other/faster primes and also a wide zoom. Panny's 7-14 zoom is a very sweet lens but veeeeery expensive.
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Holgs
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Message posted at 07/21/2009, 07:15:31 AM by Holgs

Originally posted by Ichtor:
Quoted Message: Can't wait to shoot some microstock with this puppy! I'm worried a bit about only using the pancake. I'm used to a whole set of lenses on my DSLR and it'll be a while until Oly releases other/faster primes and also a wide zoom. Panny's 7-14 zoom is a very sweet lens but veeeeery expensive.




You could always get an adapter and use your existing lenses or some existing 4/3 lenses - kinda defeats the purpose of the compact design though - except of course that its compact when you need it to be.



Unfortunately Olympus didn't send me a camera... I guess Peru was a bit far for them!
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Ichtor
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Message posted at 07/21/2009, 20:16:10 PM by Ichtor
I'm not sure if there are Canon > m4/3 adapters but like you said, a Canon lens on this camera would defeat its purpose. I need something light that can easily be carried around. That's why I chose the pancake 17mm even though it doesn't have great optics and I have to wait a long time for it to become available. I could have got my E-P1 a long time ago with the 14-42 zoom but even that lens is huge when it extends. Besides, I have a weakness for primes :)
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Neddog
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Message edited at 07/22/2009, 16:29:32 PM by Neddog
Yeah, I already picked up the Panasonic FT to mFT adapter for my E-P1 but even with my smallest lens, the Zuiko 25mm pancake, it would still be a fair size. I like having that option though of using any lens I want on it. ;)



However, they're not selling the body only either, they're only selling the 14-42mm kits, and that's all that's come into Canada yet. Worse yet, is there's STILL no word on when Olympus is even going to ship them out here! Argh, this is frustrating... If I could get a body only and order the lenses, I would consider waiting on the lens and using my 4/3 lenses with it - but my only other option right now is to pay $900 for the 14-42mm kit now then another $1000 for the 17mm kit when it gets here. Not a very viable option, lol! Olympus totally messed up on this one, if you ask me... They made such a wonderful product, but if people can't even purchase one...



I've got hundreds of dollars already invested in extra pieces for this camera, including the FT to mFT adapter ($200), SDHC cards (which I never used before), SD card readers, 37mm filter accessories, smaller camera cases, and everything, but I they're just wasted until Olympus actually bothers to do the shipping!



Not a happy camper here. :(

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Ichtor
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Message posted at 07/22/2009, 20:47:06 PM by Ichtor
Well, to give Olympus some credit, they did provide the E-P1 with the kit zoom very soon after it was announced. The demand is pretty high and it's probably hard for them to keep up with it. I'm really sad about the 17mm kit not being available. Yeah, the lens is available separately but it's $300 and frankly that lens isn't worth that much.



I would advise you to wait just a little bit more. I'm expecting the 17mm kit to be available any week now, almost certainly in August.



You know, Panasonic can't produce the LX3 in sufficient quantities even now, more than a year after it was announced. So in this aspect, Olympus seems light years ahead.



BTW, I hope you know about the soon-to-be-released Panasonic m4/3 20mm 1.7 pancake. I'm hoping that will be my next purchase and that I can replace the kit 17mm with it.
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Neddog
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Message edited at 07/22/2009, 20:52:51 PM by Neddog

Originally posted by Ichtor:
Quoted Message: Well, to give Olympus some credit, they did provide the E-P1 with the kit zoom very soon after it was announced. The demand is pretty high and it's probably hard for them to keep up with it. I'm really sad about the 17mm kit not being available. Yeah, the lens is available separately but it's $300 and frankly that lens isn't worth that much.



I would advise you to wait just a little bit more. I'm expecting the 17mm kit to be available any week now, almost certainly in August.



You know, Panasonic can't produce the LX3 in sufficient quantities even now, more than a year after it was announced. So in this aspect, Olympus seems light years ahead.



BTW, I hope you know about the soon-to-be-released Panasonic m4/3 20mm 1.7 pancake. I'm hoping that will be my next purchase and that I can replace the kit 17mm with it.




Indeed you're right about the zoom kit. That came in weeks early here, and was a big, pleasant surprise to everyone! That's what gave me hope that the prime would ccome at least...on time. -_- I do commend them on how they got that one out!



I think I'd almost pay the full price on the lens and viewfinder... if I could even get a body-only here, which isn't even possible either. D:
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Bradcalkins
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Message posted at 07/29/2009, 10:38:45 AM by Bradcalkins
I was tempted by the EP1 over my G10 until I saw this comparison:



G10 EP1 Comparison



Granted, there are lots of applications where the EP1 would bowl over the G10, but for base ISO in bright light where I use it I don't see much in the way of improvement. I'll stick to the G10 for now, and pull out the SLR the rest of the time. HD movies would be nice, though :)



I do still think cameras like the EP1 would be the way to go for stock if you could only have one camera. I find the G10 is not up to the task for all around stock photography - but it is great as a back up camera for family snaps where you just can't fit an SLR in your pocket and the occasional stock photo when opportunity strikes...
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Ichtor
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Message posted at 07/29/2009, 21:14:06 PM by Ichtor
Well, for snapshots I think the G10 trumps the E-P1 for most people. For stock however, I beg to disagree. I was just about to buy a G10 myself almost a year ago and I stopped as soon as I checked out the images. Even ISO100 was bad for stock. I think the E-P1 in comparison is a very good compact tool for stock photographers. You can't argue with the much larger sensor.
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Bradcalkins
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Message edited at 07/30/2009, 10:46:59 AM by Bradcalkins

Originally posted by Ichtor:
Quoted Message: Well, for snapshots I think the G10 trumps the E-P1 for most people. For stock however, I beg to disagree. I was just about to buy a G10 myself almost a year ago and I stopped as soon as I checked out the images. Even ISO100 was bad for stock. I think the E-P1 in comparison is a very good compact tool for stock photographers. You can't argue with the much larger sensor.




I think we do agree :) My point was that the G10 ISN'T up to the task of stock photography - but serves my purpose as a compact alternative to the SLR for family outings. I think the E-P1 is filling a wide open niche: compact, high quality, large sensor, and ergonomic (sorry Sigma!)...
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Red
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Message posted at 09/03/2009, 22:51:43 PM by Red
So, did anyone actually purchase this camera? If so, does it live up to the hype? Inquiring minds want to know.


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Bradcalkins
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Message posted at 09/04/2009, 10:37:50 AM by Bradcalkins
Not me - it seems I can't quite have it all :) I like the idea of this camera a lot but can't justify the price of what is really an SLR. It is just too big for my purposes with a zoom and I'm not willing to replace my actual DSLR. There is also the Panasonic version of a micro 4/3rds camera to consider now (with flash!, but no built in stabilizer).



If I didn't already have a G10 I'd be seriously considering something like this with the pancake lens, but I just can't justify another camera right now.
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Neddog
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Message edited at 12/20/2011, 23:30:40 PM by Neddog
That's weird, why did this thread get bumped to the front page? I thought it got necro'ed but the last post was from 2009 still.



It was really good nostalgic reading, though. May as well leave my personal update now that I'm here...



I had finally given up on my pre-order of a white E-P1 with pancake and OVF, and got the silver E-P1 with retractable zoom since that was all I could get. In the long run I think I'm glad as I ended up loving the silver finish and I've been using 4/3 lenses on it anyways so the pancake wasn't missed.



The camera system turned out to be everything I hoped for, and opened up a new world of casual photography to me. I can finally feel confident shooting in ambient light with light legacy primes, and not feel the need for a full lighting setup and heavy glass just to shoot a "snapshot".



I also found the camera to be much more convenient in the studio. It's lighter and frees me from the eye-level finder for more flattering angles without always crouching down. As I continued to upgrade bodies, my money went into new PEN bodies as I have them with me at all times and prefer to use most of the time. Eventually the high image quality (particularly from the E-PL2 generation and on) significantly exceeded that of my old pro-grade DSLR, and I saw no reason to spend a couple thousand dollars upgrading that when I prefer to shoot with my PEN. So now instead of the PEN backing up my DSLR, I now have a smaller PEN to back up a larger PEN. :) My combination right now is the E-PL2 and E-PM1. The E-PM1 stays in my small bag with my legacy primes and flash bracket, while the E-PL2 stays in my big backpack with all my lights and commercial lenses.

I have never been happier with my camera gear in my life, and am so glad I started using Micro Four-Thirds.
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Neddog
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Message edited at 12/21/2011, 23:31:48 PM by Neddog
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