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Message posted at 09/02/2009, 17:12:14 PM by Rangpl |
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@Achilles why You at DT are always talk about frustration? Strange.
I'm not and i dont care, i give ideas - feedback.
And these are very SIMILAR to what @Bradcalkins (me earlier at forum) and some others wrote.
There are better ways of enhancing the gallery (e.g. grouping or reorganizing similar) than rejecting particular images.
By similar i mean VARIANTS and not some trivial change of an angle, color or something like that. Cause i don't upload similar - just variants. Anyway EOT for me. |
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Photoshop Lightroom Inkscape Blender 3D. Canon: 40D 500D G12...
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Message posted at 09/02/2009, 18:35:55 PM by Noonie |
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Good reminder to control my OCD! But I don't like to make the decisions..... |
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Nikon and sometimes an older Olympus.
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Message posted at 09/02/2009, 18:54:35 PM by Photoshow |
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Useful blog but I have to disagree with deleting from camera. One can never tell the true quality of an image from the 2-3" LCD screen of a digital camera.
In fact to me deleting anything is a mistake. Just because it won't work for me in my Dreamstime Collection today does not mean that there wont be a new market for an image somewhere else tomorrow. There are more image markets in the world then just microstock. If we restrict our vision to only microstock we restrict our potential to earn over the long haul. |
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Nikon D2X, Nikon D300
Nikon VR Lenses 24-120 VR, 18-200 VR,...
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Message posted at 09/02/2009, 19:21:53 PM by Tan510jomast |
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yes, i agree with you Photoshow. many times the images i thought were wasted editing at the time of shoot, ended up as my best images when viewed 100%.
in fact, i now use a larger mem card for this reason. so i don't have to delete to recover storage space during a shoot. i now back up everything and leave my editing to a little later. dvd's are so cheap, it's not even a consideration of savings.
finally, good point. many images not meant for microstock still find their way into my portfolio for other usage ie. gallery, graphics post processing ,etc..
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Message posted at 09/02/2009, 22:10:16 PM by Pixart |
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Just don't be so rutheless with self editing that you forget to submit both a horizontal and a vertical of the shot. Print tends to want vertical shots, but if you send only a horizontal the buyer may never visualize your photo on the cover of their magazine.
And oh, god, NEVER delete in the camera! Not to mention, you shouldn't be chimping at every single shot. |
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I'm a Nikon Girl - what can I say? D7000, D200, D70S....
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Message posted at 09/02/2009, 22:34:34 PM by Defun |
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very useful!!!!THX!!! |
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Message posted at 09/03/2009, 02:52:07 AM by Aitan75 |
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thanks a lot for your blog it's very very useful |
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COOLPIX P4/NIKON
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Message posted at 09/03/2009, 10:12:47 AM by Marilyngould |
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A helpful blog to give me pause and scrutinize images for quality vs. quantity when uploading. Personally, I get so enthusiastic about great shots it is very difficult to choose just a few; perhaps like a parent choosing a favorite child? In addition, I strongly agree with others that say, “Don’t delete in the camera! “, I like to view a photo numerous times at full size before axing it. As stated, the blog is helpful to encourage me to examine my work more closely before uploading, thank you for taking the time to create it.
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Canon EOS 20D, EF70-200mm f/2.8L, 1.4x Extender, EF 100mm f...
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Message posted at 09/03/2009, 10:14:07 AM by Pixel-pizzazz |
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I'm very pleased to read this. It will be so much easier to search when not having to get through near doubles.
Although I do almost exclusively illustration, I did study photography in Art School. I see the difference now being editing...just as mentioned. Before-when film was used-the photographer did editing even BEFORE snapping the shutter. I remember then it being good if a good photograper got a couple of worthwhile shots from a roll of 24. Now a days I hear of good photographers who take 1000's of shots in one photo session. That, to me, is mind boggling.
I think Achilles has it right and that images should be deleted right in camera. That preview is about what a customer will see when browsing and anything that is compositionally not nice should go because we can assume that the photograper has the shots technically correct already and won't need to perform all of the magic out of camera.
I just wanted to offer my support here to Dreamstime - I'm happy this is now clearly stated. |
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Message posted at 09/03/2009, 14:17:48 PM by Frantab01 |
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thanks for the advice, very useful,
cheers ::) fran |
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Cannon 50D
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Message posted at 09/03/2009, 14:37:40 PM by Wildmac |
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I totally agree with cutting out the doubles in your portfolio. You prune your trees to encourage new growth and fruit/flowers. I can't think of anything worse for a buyer than wading through pages and pages of the same image from very slightly different angles. I say prune your doubles and watch your portfolio grow and bloom in the new light. Great blog! Thank you :0) PS. Also doesn't 2,255 images in a portfolio with 14,327 sales look great when a buyer is checking out your portfolio. (Check out Achilles images to sales ratio) It looks so much better than the other way around because of doubles and similar images. Cheers |
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Canon 1000D, 70-200mm f4 L, 50mm f1.8, Canon G11
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Message posted at 09/03/2009, 14:58:21 PM by Linqong |
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Very useful blog! |
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Canon 5D MarkII.Canon 30d and professional serial lenses.
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Message posted at 09/04/2009, 00:30:08 AM by Vatikaki |
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Thanks dude! Very helpful - I never actually thought of looking at the thumbnail. I've been trying to select only the 'best' ones from shoots but it is sometimes really hard, so I get my wife to pick out the best ones after I filtered them down to the technically best ones. |
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A sense of humor
Nikon D3
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Message posted at 09/04/2009, 17:58:18 PM by Melonstone |
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Some good points Achilles - or perhaps we should call you Pandora, as you seem to have opened the box! It's good to put a limit on "similar" photos from the same shoot with the same model(s) in the same/similar poses as it's far too boring wading through them all sometimes...... |
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CANON EOS 50D; Canon A480(for my pocket)
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Message edited at 09/10/2009, 03:11:35 AM by Logoboom |
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Quoted Message: It would be cool if a compromise of having an image stack could be used. Instead of submitting multiple distinct images you submit a series with the 'best' image as the top of the stack (maybe submitting a single image first, then adding to the stack after approval). DT could treat the whole stack as the single top image for searches, pricing, etc. but still give the buyer the flexibility of purchasing any image within the stack (for the overall stack's level). If you are exclusive DT could pay you for one image (not for each image in the stack). This would maximize revenue for a series, and make it easy for buyer to see other shots from a shoot. Note that I'm not suggesting you stack a whole shoot, just those selects similar enough that they really represent alternate poses or angles. Kind of like how the model images work - you see a single image that you can click on to bring up all images for that model. The difference would be that the images behind the stack would not appear in search results...
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I agree 1000%
As a photographer I support the principle of submitting only the best shots, but as a graphic designer I feel that having some variety is often a good thing. Not 50 boring shots from the same shoot of course, mind you, but 5-7 is a good number. Stack system would be a great solution. |
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Canon EOS 5D MKII, L lenses, a bunch of small strobes, monol...
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Message posted at 09/10/2009, 04:08:03 AM by Achilles - member is an admin |
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We considered this option, but technically it would be difficult to implement.
Not only that, but how do you add them to a stack?
Automatically= too difficult.
Editors= affects review time & pending line.
Contributors=unsafe (some will add them, some not).
If we rely on keywording to generate the stack there are many different images that are keyworded the same. They will all be under a single stack.
The solution could work for a much smaller database.
Our engine already takes into account similarity, we don't want to reinvent anything. It's up to you if you want to submit them (but face risks of refusals). |
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Nikon D300 / Nikon N80 | Nikon 10.5mm f/2.8G ED AF DX Fishey...
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Message posted at 09/11/2009, 09:12:56 AM by Truelight9 |
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Thank you, very useful. Good baseline. O course, plenty of debate about exceptions to the rule and what is simular. I do think with Dreamstimes branding they are correct on keeping similars down more.
I find that adding one or two similars after an image has helped and adding over 3 similars to a popular waters down the "Value" and kills sales. "Can't be that great, there are dozens just like it".
Don't compete against yourself... only improve. |
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Nikon D90, Vue Infinite , NewTek Lightwave 3D , Poser , Shad...
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Message posted at 09/13/2009, 23:01:02 PM by Mocker |
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How about different approach.
What about submitting stack of previews of similar images?
My problem is simple. Sometimes I have similar of images from shoot and I have no idea which one is going to sell. I cannot submit them all and let inspector decide – I just don’t have enough time to retouch them all.
On the other hand why would you waist inspectors’ resources on this?
So idea of solution may be:
Photographer submits 1-2 images. As soon as they are accepted photographer may submit previews of additional similar images (200px on long side) Inspectors wouldn’t check quality at all, just the fact that images are similar to those already accepted.
Now, when customer goes into details of image there would be option to see all submitted similar previews. If buyer really wants particular variation, there will be option to request this image. Then photographer get automatic e-mail, prepares this image and upload it. At this moment inspector checks quality issues and if image is accepted buyer gets notification. You can even charge buyers little extra for this kind of service.
That’s just rough idea that probably has some cons as well. Still think about this, maybe you can develop something useful from it.
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Mac OS X 10.3.9;
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Message posted at 09/15/2009, 16:20:14 PM by Lvnel |
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Few times I was requested to post more images from the same shoot (20 more). Dreamstime is by far my favourite site, but I had to look for another place to upload all the images that allowed clients per image download. Those images always sell in series. I cannot say if the same person downloads them or not, but the site is making money. I agree about low quality images that look the same - delete, but there must be some kind of option for series of hi-quality. Thank you, in either way, for a great site. |
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Message posted at 09/18/2009, 22:39:47 PM by Sgcallaway1994 |
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@Achilles - What about black and white versions of an image, are these considered "similar" images? |
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Nikon D70, Nikon SB800 Flash, Nikon D90
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