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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 01:28:06 AM by Gruja_digital_rebel |
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Excellent! Great news, DT is the best!!! |
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Nikon d3100
Nikon DX 18-55 VR
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 01:41:11 AM by Fultonsphoto |
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| Originally posted by Warrenpricephotography: |
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Hmm can buyers not download them (potentially via subscription) and send them to print labs now?
Thaat seems to be a good point ... so why does DT think buyers will have DT make prints. Just take a subscription image to WalMart??? |
Besides the fact that a buyer may be able to do this (which I am sure most dont do) My concern is more with the site selling these images under the normal RF licence option. Why are these prints not sold with the (P-EL) licence option as this is what this option entitles for this type of usage, as well as this, what if a contributor has opted out of the (P-EL) licence option, why would it now be ok to offer printing options on an image that is not entitled to be used in this manner (i.e. Framed Artwork as stated in (P-EL) licence T&C? |
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Nikon D700 and D80 - 18mm to 70mm DX ED Nkkor lens and 70-30...
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 01:52:58 AM by Martinedegraaf - member is an admin |
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As I have understood from this page it is perfectly allowed to use a RF-picture, print it as many times as you like, and hang it on your own wall. You can however not resell the print in any way. For that you will need a P-EL. (correct me if I'm wrong).
If above is the case, I do not see any problems.
I think, if promoted properly, it might attract a whole new group of customers to DT. So...good move imo ;)
Martine
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Nikon D300, Nikkor 17-55 f2.8, Nikkor 70-200 f2.8, Nikkor 50...
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 01:54:04 AM by Stanicat |
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I think DT read my mind. Excellent IDEA. |
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Canon EOS 40D - 10 MP
older Canon EOS 350D - Rebel XT - 8 M...
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Message edited at 10/08/2009, 02:07:16 AM by Admin |
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I'm sure DT will be receiving a reasonable markup on the print/canvas production costs (otherwise, why do it!)......I think what contributors are looking for is a share of this markup in addition to the RF sale! (After all, without the image there is no print!). Is that unreasonable to expect?
My initial post says clearly how the final cost is created. Besides what our partners are charging us, there is no other markup for the agency, besides the RF sale.
Should we decide to raise prices (and we might do so at some point), the markup will be split with the contributor just as we do with our regular royalties. The percentages will remain the same.
I like the idea very much! I'm thinking of adding this feature to my website as "order posters and canvases" with a direct link to DT. My question: If someone (referred by me through my website) registers and orders a print do I just receive the usual 10% for the image or 10% of the whole purchase?
Buyers will use credits to purchase prints, therefore the 10% will be awarded to you when they purchase the package. This 10% will be added to the production cost. If the buyer purchases your image, then another 10% will be awarded to you from the RF image sale. This one goes from the agency's share.
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Nikon D300 / Nikon N80 | Nikon 10.5mm f/2.8G ED AF DX Fishey...
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Message edited at 10/08/2009, 02:10:55 AM by Admin |
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The P-EL allows redistribution for the content. For these individual prints, the customer will not even get the digital file, they only receive the printed product, for their own use (no resale is allowed). |
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Nikon D300 / Nikon N80 | Nikon 10.5mm f/2.8G ED AF DX Fishey...
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 02:15:57 AM by Ankevanwyk |
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Thanks for your quick response, Serban. Waiting for the feature on Dreamstime to add it to my website! |
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Nikon, Nikon, Nikon!
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 04:19:52 AM by smartview27 |
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Dear Serban,
If I am from Romania, how quickly the prints will arrive?
Regards,
Dragos |
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Medium Format Camera Mamiya RZ67 PRO II, Nikon F5, Nikon D30...
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 10:35:10 AM by Preckas |
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| Quoted Message: [quote]In regards to the review policy, current criteria will remain the same, we already accept art photos. But of course, for the acceptance/refusal border, we will take into account what type of photo is in demand for prints. Contributors who had P-EL sales know that they look different than other ELs or RF. |
Well, OK, but every time I submit an image that won recognition and/or prize money in a photography contest, the Reviewers reject them for things like "poor composition!"
ARGH![/quote]
I know the feeling :)
This seems like a great idea. I hope DT reviewers will be more leniant towards these type of images and perhaps have a dedicated category for them.
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Canon Rebel T2i, 400D, Sigma and Canon lenses. Olympus point...
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 11:48:21 AM by Jmphoto |
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As usual, DT is moving us forward! Great idea DT...Thanks! |
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Canon EOS 50D, Tamron lens 18-270 mm
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 12:25:31 PM by Stan020 |
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Very good idea.
I like the innovative ideas of dreamstime and also their
''creative friendly'' reviews of pics etc.
DT, keep on moving !
Stanley- from Amsterdam.
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Nikon d3100 + 18 - 55 VR + 55 - 200 VR
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 12:35:27 PM by Keki |
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very very cool idea ! :)) |
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 13:56:39 PM by Ibyte |
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| Originally posted by Wisconsinart: |
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| Quoted Message: [quote]In regards to the review policy, current criteria will remain the same, we already accept art photos. But of course, for the acceptance/refusal border, we will take into account what type of photo is in demand for prints. Contributors who had P-EL sales know that they look different than other ELs or RF. |
Well, OK, but every time I submit an image that won recognition and/or prize money in a photography contest, the Reviewers reject them for things like "poor composition!"
ARGH![/quote]
welcome to MICROSTOCK..
Alas, there is a school of thought which states:
"If it is good enough to put on a wall, its not good for stock photography"
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 14:00:45 PM by Ibyte |
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| Originally posted by Pinfoldphotos: |
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That means that we charge the highest fee that is possible for RF. Other than this, I'm afraid I don't see what we could do.
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I'm sure DT will be receiving a reasonable markup on the print/canvas production costs (otherwise, why do it!)......I think what contributors are looking for is a share of this markup in addition to the RF sale! (After all, without the image there is no print!). Is that unreasonable to expect? Personally, I'd just be happy with any extra sales, but then this is very much just a hobby for me. However, for contributors who aim to make a serious income from their images, and sell them independantly as prints as well as on DT (people like Lightart), I can see this being a problem.
Ian.[/quote]
yes, i'm not sure about the pricing.. i may be wrong.. but if a client buys an image for say one credit, thats like, for the sake of example, .36 for me..
but if a client buys a canvas for , say, $25 of that image.. shouldn't i get alot more than .36 when it is downloaded ? |
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 14:17:46 PM by Shootalot |
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This is great news! A possible target consumer are doctors and dentists, they always need scenic photos or paintings for their offices. I wish everyone luck with the new sales. As far as quality goes, dreamstime should promote these prints as being much better than the run of the mill drugstore prints. |
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Canon G10 camera. Konica Autoreflex TC 35MM camera and vari...
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 16:01:16 PM by Cmarshall717 |
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I agree with Ibyte. DT says they are not "marking up" the print itself but only charging the download price plus the print price as charged by the printer. So we would only get our standard DL price for the sale. You can bet the printer is making something on the print. They are not going to do it for only the cost of the paper and ink. I currently sell my images on another "products" site (posters, stamps, mugs, mousepads, etc.). I get my percentage from the markup of the printer's price. So why would I not here? I am not comfortable allowing a printer to make a profit on my images where I only make my normal $.36 (or whatever minimal percentage the DL comes to). There is absolutely NO benefit, in my opinion, to doing this as it is now. |
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Nikon D7000, Nikon D70, 70-300 Quantaray/18-70 Nikon/ 50 Nik...
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Message edited at 10/08/2009, 19:12:07 PM by Fleyeing |
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| Originally posted by smartview27: |
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| Quoted Message: If I am from Romania, how quickly the prints will arrive? |
Probably at the same time as everybody else since no mass-printing is done in Europe (or the US) any more. It's all going to India nowadays. It comes by air cargo at several hubs and there it is post-stamped by a local partner.
It has to do with the ink/paint (cartridge) price which is 1/20th of the US/EU prices for the same quality and hourly wages of 0.70$ which ensure thorough visual QC.
Welcome to global business ;-)
On topic: why do some complain about this? It's an additional avenue of income, it's a fresh customer base, the customers don't get the digital master and they will have to pay the full price by credits since subscription is not allowed.
Of course DT will take a healthy commission on the printer's job, as they take 70% from your gross sales price (the vast majority of level 1 images). That's what agents do to keep afloat.
Those who don't agree can try to start their own printing outlet by an individual site, cafepress, smugmug or whatever. I'm pretty sure it can only yield a fraction of what DT can give. |
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Canon 5DMKII, 24-70, 70-200, strobes
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Message edited at 10/08/2009, 19:20:14 PM by Cathysbelleimage |
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. hummm.... not sure I am liking this move... will wait and see though... |
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Canon 5DMkII, Canon 7D, 40D and 20D, 24-105mm, 17-85mm, 100m...
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Message posted at 10/08/2009, 20:01:19 PM by Cmarshall717 |
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On topic: why do some complain about this? It's an additional avenue of income, it's a fresh customer base, the customers don't get the digital master and they will have to pay the full price by credits since subscription is not allowed.
Of course DT will take a healthy commission on the printer's job, as they take 70% from your gross sales price (the vast majority of level 1 images). That's what agents do to keep afloat.
Those who don't agree can try to start their own printing outlet by an individual site, cafepress, smugmug or whatever. I'm pretty sure it can only yield a fraction of what DT can give.[/quote]
I'm not complaining about it. And I would definitely welcome more downloads. My concern is that I think it's only right if someone is making a profit on our images, that we should at least make a small profit from the print also. It DT is making a profit from the printer, then we should make some sort of profit for our image, "in addition to" the percentage for the download. These are two separate transactions, not just a download. When someone pays for a download and goes to Wal-Mart and makes a print, that is after the fact. What DT is proposing or planning to do is a one-stop-shop or package kind of deal. That's an entirely different scenario. |
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Nikon D7000, Nikon D70, 70-300 Quantaray/18-70 Nikon/ 50 Nik...
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Message edited at 10/09/2009, 02:23:10 AM by Admin |
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No offense, but can you read my above posts once again? Where do you see that Dreamstime makes an additional markup on the printer? It doesn't.
Yes, the printing company has its own profits, but they provide the best prices on the market. We assume that their profit is minimal. Just as we do, they target a high volume of requests.
The profit for the photographer will be above the average RPD, because the system will use the maximum size available. That costs between 6 and 14 credits. Check your My earnings page to see how much you get. We're talking about something from a couple of dollars up to over $10. The fee is the same no matter the product (poster or canvas). Canvases being more expensive, you will have a lower percentage compared to the total, but for posters, your share will be quite significant. Referring the share to the total price is however irrelevant, because production and shipping costs are always significant (no matter the printing partner). Unlike digital downloads, these items are printed&shipped one by one. |
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