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Message posted at 10/21/2009, 04:29:06 AM by Jacus |
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Quoted Message: What will happen in the absence of a response from the contributor? Will the image just be deleted automatically?
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I hope, deleting images one by one will be painful (I don't like idea to give images for free)
I was always surprised why people want delete never sold images instead separate them from “popular” database. It’s costless.
Old images can sell. Sometimes buyers need pictures that don’t risk to be used everywhere or they are looking for not so “stock looking” images.
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My photos are downsized from bigger RAW files
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Message posted at 10/21/2009, 05:24:22 AM by Freezingpictures |
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I am totally for it. I would even say two years of not selling would be enough, however I would not put them in the free section but suggest to create something like ********s Dollarbin.
Some people do not like the idea of deleting because they might loose sells on these images, but you also have to consider that you might gain sells, because your better images will be more findable.
This is a good way to keep a high quality collection on DT. |
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Images were made with the Olympus 720 UZ, Canon EOS 60D, Can...
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Message posted at 10/21/2009, 06:00:19 AM by Tonygers |
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There's no such thing as a free lunch and giving files away for free seems to me rather silly unless some sort of reparation is giving to the submitter like the owners of that 'other' site does by paying 50c for each file.
What if it's a file I like AND is still selling on another site? Why would I want to give that away for nothing?
What if it's a file that I agree is not my best work and wouldn't care if I lost it? How would that help promote my portfolio by donating it to the free section if the file in question's inferior to my present work?
It doesn't make sense to me but that's just my opinion and we're all entitled to one! Aren't we? |
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Nikon D90 12.3 megapixel
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Message posted at 10/21/2009, 06:18:41 AM by Martinedegraaf - member is an admin |
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Quoted Message: What if it's a file I like AND is still selling on another site? Why would I want to give that away for nothing?
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If you really believe in your picture, you can off course always choose the option to delete it. And then resubmit it and let the reviewers hold it to todays' standard.
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Nikon D300, Nikkor 17-55 f2.8, Nikkor 70-200 f2.8, Nikkor 50...
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Message posted at 10/21/2009, 06:35:10 AM by Achilles - member is an admin |
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Selling these images at discounted prices will not help them. We want images to sell on our regular pricing, not to draw buyer's attention this way. Reason why the free section is kept as a separate database. We also don't want to compensate contributors with a bonus for each donation. It's the exposure from the free database that should be the goal, not a few cents. That exposure can bring much more on your portfolio (or others). There are so many thousands of free images right now. All members benefit from them, not only the authors. |
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Message posted at 10/21/2009, 14:02:11 PM by Abpics |
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In short, good idea. |
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Sony DSLR DSC F828
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Message posted at 10/21/2009, 16:06:27 PM by Aitan75 |
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good idea!!! personally when the photos exceed the year, if they have zero sales, I move them in the free section to increase my visibility |
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COOLPIX P4/NIKON
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Message edited at 10/22/2009, 06:10:44 AM by Imagoinsulae |
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Clean the archives from the old images that have not sold is correct.
I think it should be afforded the opportunity for exclusive pictures of DT and quality.
Many images that you see on DT are also sold in other stores competitors, and therefore it is right that they are the first to be eliminated. They weigh down your search and obscure the exclusive images of DT, and those seeking the feeling that all stores are equal.
I believe that too many free images hurt sales. I think that the customer must be encouraged to consult with DT gifts, but would facilitate his research.
DT can invest in better translations of the site and keywords, and encourage the integration of data for each image even in the native language of the contributor.
Indeed those who are not native speakers of English, he realizes that the captions are badly translated into other languages.
This complicates the search and reduce the visibility and sales.
Even the opportunity to suggest better translations available on the site is usable only by those familiar with the English language.
Short cleaning intelligent, and more. |
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Nikon, Panasonic, Pentax, Sigma, Manfrotto
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Message posted at 10/22/2009, 11:14:59 AM by Rgbe |
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Good idea. I already disabled 44 photos. |
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Message posted at 10/22/2009, 12:25:14 PM by Titania1980 |
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| Originally posted by Imagoinsulae: |
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Quoted Message: Clean the archives from the old images that have not sold is correct.
I think it should be afforded the opportunity for exclusive pictures of DT and quality.
Many images that you see on DT are also sold in other stores competitors, and therefore it is right that they are the first to be eliminated. They weigh down your search and obscure the exclusive images of DT, and those seeking the feeling that all stores are equal.
I believe that too many free images hurt sales. I think that the customer must be encouraged to consult with DT gifts, but would facilitate his research.
DT can invest in better translations of the site and keywords, and encourage the integration of data for each image even in the native language of the contributor.
Indeed those who are not native speakers of English, he realizes that the captions are badly translated into other languages.
This complicates the search and reduce the visibility and sales.
Even the opportunity to suggest better translations available on the site is usable only by those familiar with the English language.
Short cleaning intelligent, and more. |
Yeah, sometimes I've thought that whole stock businnes maybe would work better if every agency had more ratio of exclusive images... I mean,every agency should have a lot of their own exclusive images,so you would'nt see the exact image sold at 3 sites at different prices at every site ;) |
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Canon EOS 550D
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Message posted at 10/22/2009, 15:15:21 PM by Ratmandude |
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I must admit there are sometimes that it is quite frustrating to have an image rejected, based on the reasons "there are too many of theses in the database" etc … So yes, perhaps a cleanup is a good idea, but … Spare a though for those that have been dedicated enough to not submit to another agency.
I say that all "exclusive contributors" should be exempt from the first wave of clean up action.
See where that goes, in so far as weeding out some older & perhaps not as great quality images …
Perhaps also start with any images that are less than say a predetermined max size, e.g. 6MP or smaller … so that all the smaller files are taken out of the system first
That is not to say that there is no use for the smaller files … But as a user has mentioned earlier, the introduction of the "prints" that can now be ordered, it may be better to keep the bigger files, over an image that perhaps will not generate as good an output to large format prints as what is on offer thru the service.
In so far as the images that are to be marked for removal, I agree that too many free images will damage sales potential for contributors. Rather just delete the images … and if a contributor really feels strongly enough about an image's sales potential, then they should just resubmit the image.
Lastly, being an exclusive contributor, I must add, that in the event of an "exclusive" image being targeted for removal, I believe that the exclusive contributor should be rewarded in some way, in light of their loyalty to DT … However it doesn't have to be in the form of cash … what about offering xXxTBC number of credits [relative to the size of the image] in return for images removed, that way the contributor could perhaps make use of the credits to purchase other images, that would in turn benefit all concerned from the sale [from within]. |
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Message posted at 10/22/2009, 23:29:26 PM by Aneese |
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Quoted Message: yeh the cleanup is most probably a good thing
Howver, i do not see how 1000 or so new images in the free section will help in any way... surely it means that instead of buying from photographers portfolios clients would be able to download similar quality images for free
Eventually there will be everything anyone needs in the 'free' section...
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Agree!
Lets shoot are self in the foot.
Tens-of-thousands of free images to compete with. All us contributors work hard, spend a lot of time uploading, and have expensive equipment and shooting cost. It makes NOSENSE to "cleanup" a database by moving the files to a "free database". Even on a voluntary basis, Were is the logic behind this?????
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Message posted at 10/24/2009, 00:08:30 AM by Creativeapril |
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Good Idea,
But i wonder if we can use CD option to sell our (no download images):
I mean : if we can collect group of images that have the same subject (for example: 100 images for soccer game on one cd for $50).
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Computer, G-PEN F610, Printer, Scanner, Software, Digital Ca...
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Message posted at 10/24/2009, 09:37:07 AM by Photoknight |
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I am an image buyer and also a contributor (we do client marketing and web design (over 1000 images in the last 4 months ... only 7 pics posted 4 with downloads).
It is amazing when creating a lightbox for a project that is niched how few photographs can be available. Perhaps we can make sure that a reasonable number in each category (50 most viewed photos in a keyword or category) are retained. It can be difficult sometimes to finish a project without selection.
Dreamstime is fullfilling 100% of our photo needs at this time. I worry that deleting a 4 or 5 year selection from the database could impact us and create a need to move on to looking toward other services. Many of the photos we have purchased were not purchased before....this is actually a good thing for us as it means our work is original. (we of course don't know or pay attention to the date posted)
Blurry or poorly lit,,,, would love to see it out of here....
Perhaps we can make sure by adding the caveat to your age selection that a reasonable number in each category (50 most viewed photos in a keyword or category) are retained. It can be difficult sometimes to finish a project without selection. Having to sort multiple services for photos, is a time waster for us.
Some refinement of the selection of what is to be deleted beside just age and if purchased would be positive.
Respectfully submitted.
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Message posted at 10/24/2009, 09:58:44 AM by Photoknight |
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A photo buyers perspective
I suggest one or two more criteria for deletion than just age and if purchased before. Niches are called niches because they are not so common, it can be very frustrating when a topic has limited selection.
Please consider the number available under the primary 2 or 3 categories or keywords of the photo as an additional criteria
Is there not enough revenue with all this growth to hire an editor to review all pics 4 years old that are without purchase or preview downloads? A huge number of images can be reviewed very quickly for blurry or poorly lit. Just click the "outta here" button.
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Message posted at 10/24/2009, 10:02:25 AM by Photoknight |
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When I buy, which is often... I need 15 to 25 pics from a category. When I do a site for a builder (think particular occupation), a month later I might have to do another one for a builder (think job for someone in the same occupation).
As a buyer, I don't care about the free category, just good stock photography, well lit, uncropped, and in focus.... with many many choices in each niche or category.....many of the photos we buy are level 1, not as much because of price but because they are not overused.
So please delete carefully and do not empty the categories of selection.
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Message edited at 10/24/2009, 10:16:22 AM by MilsiArt |
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| Originally posted by Ratmandude: |
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Quoted Message: I must admit there are sometimes that it is quite frustrating to have an image rejected, based on the reasons "there are too many of theses in the database" etc … So yes, perhaps a cleanup is a good idea, but … Spare a though for those that have been dedicated enough to not submit to another agency.
I say that all "exclusive contributors" should be exempt from the first wave of clean up action.
See where that goes, in so far as weeding out some older & perhaps not as great quality images …
Perhaps also start with any images that are less than say a predetermined max size, e.g. 6MP or smaller … so that all the smaller files are taken out of the system first
That is not to say that there is no use for the smaller files … But as a user has mentioned earlier, the introduction of the "prints" that can now be ordered, it may be better to keep the bigger files, over an image that perhaps will not generate as good an output to large format prints as what is on offer thru the service.
In so far as the images that are to be marked for removal, I agree that too many free images will damage sales potential for contributors. Rather just delete the images … and if a contributor really feels strongly enough about an image's sales potential, then they should just resubmit the image.
Lastly, being an exclusive contributor, I must add, that in the event of an "exclusive" image being targeted for removal, I believe that the exclusive contributor should be rewarded in some way, in light of their loyalty to DT … However it doesn't have to be in the form of cash … what about offering xXxTBC number of credits [relative to the size of the image] in return for images removed, that way the contributor could perhaps make use of the credits to purchase other images, that would in turn benefit all concerned from the sale [from within]. |
Sorry, I am almost always uploading 6MP photos to microstock. Simple resampling of that images to double height and width gives enough resolution for quite huge prints. After all it is then so huge that is 24MPIX image (6000px X 4000 px)!
Higher resolutions are reserved for traditional agencies IMHO!
The idea about megapixels is not withstanding at all. There is future where you will see more and more web resolution images sold...
Cleaning portfolios under given conditions is very fair and I must say that Dreamstime is again showing that it cares about all contributors!
But, It should be 'delete' by default - not 'free' by default. If someone wants to give his work for free - it's his own decision. |
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Message posted at 10/24/2009, 19:26:06 PM by Svecchiotti |
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Good idea & I agree...if they did not sell in a 3-4 year period they most likely never will. It should eliminate a lot of photos and give the better ones even more exposure. |
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Message edited at 10/25/2009, 20:18:31 PM by Paulus |
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Yes. Don't like the idea of giving away free en masse. People head to the free section and Morguefile, etc because you do not have to pay; not because you might find a free image that leads to a $20 image!!
If Dreamstime guys have stats which suggest otherwise, that would help contributors make their decisions. Of course, you don't have to register to get a free image, but you do have to go to the trouble if you want to buy something....hmmmm...seems like something is wrong there....visitors should have to register to get Dreamstime freebies, in my opinion, because if they will go to the trouble of doing this, they will go to the trouble of purchasing images once in a while.
I have given previous uploads to the free section, not because I want the exposure, but because someone may as well enjoy/use them for something, even freeloaders.
I think giving things to free section will drive visitors to Dreamstime.com
I think not compensating contributors will save Dreamstime.com money over agencies that do offer this.
I think Dreamstime.com wants to 'force' us to the keymasters to make more money from us.
I think taking off images that are a few years old is likely to save Dreamstime the same amount of space as a 3 year old USB Pen Drive (hands up those of you who were uploading 24megapixel images 4 years ago)...this can't be the reasoning for the 'cleansing'.
I have had products on Amazon and iTunes for years and they have never 'cleaned their database' of live content.
By the way, I'm not a Dreamstime-hater....I've been exclusive and loyal for years...but having been here long enough, I can read between the lines. Besides, it was Dreamstime's decision (and at their sole discretion) to take on, or 'represent' these 0 download images originally. Like any good agency, shouldn't they, not us, be working harder for the creative works we have entrusted to them?
I think that if Dreamstime are having difficulties in these lean times then we, the key stakeholders, should be told.
I think that Dreamstime could be better adopting a maximum file size upload (>24 megapixels is excessive and is not likely to be a commonly requested size). There could always be a 'request this image in a large format' button.
I also disagree with the idea that older images may be inferior...I wouldn't like to say that in a room full of original Magnum Photographers...most of the world's photographic iconography is older than Dreamstime's suggested threshold.
Of course, there is no panic....if you don't like the idea of giving your old stuff away, take it off, give it to another agency, or (for a few dollars/credits) simply buy it yourself...this last act will surely move it into the 'safe zone'. Of course, the worry is that Dreamstime, in six months, may move the safe zone threshold to include anything with only 1 download, or 2, or 3, or....maybe it will increase steadily...?
Finally, I agree with Ranmandude in that exclusive contributors have shown their full hand and given full trust to Dreamstime and they should be rewarded that with 'exclusive' rights to sell any approved image they want....maybe audio and even video...?....this may even increase the number of those 'going exclusive'.
PS: I currently don't have any 0 download images that qualify for this so I don't have *that* axe to grind. |
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Message posted at 10/25/2009, 21:07:59 PM by Afagundes |
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This discussion comes back once in a while here in DT.
I might say I do understand DT reasoning on that, but its quite unexpected to have this subject come back again and again.
Old images can be as good as the new ones, of course.
And I have many undownloaded images downloaded for the first time, every month.actually about 25% of my downloads are undownloaded images.
Are those downloads all of my old undownloaded images?
Of course not all the time, many are brand new images that just havent been downloaded yet, but some are oldies ang goodies, and of course I get worried that these might harm my downloads.
So, my opinion is, dont do it, you will barely save memory space because old images dont have such a large resolution.
Unless, you can check on the files and analyse them, too dark, bad composition, etc..., based on the actual standards that are higher than at the begining, than I would fully agree.
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