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Model Release forms and family

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Cassie08
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Message posted at 01/09/2010, 13:25:54 PM by Cassie08
Hi Guys,



I have a odd question. I have made a generic model release form because I dont want to ask people to sign different ones all the time. Can someone tell me if a model release form needs to have the 'Shoot Date' and 'Shoot Description' on it? The reason I am wondering is for when I take pictures of family and friends often the best shots are not from Shoots but from everyday moments, so i am not sure what should be written on the form for 'Shoot Date' and 'Shoot Description'?



Any advice would be really great!!



Thanks guys



Cassie
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Red
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Message posted at 01/09/2010, 19:21:40 PM by Red
I would suggest running your generic form by Support here to find out if it would be acceptable. The FAQ for DT's Model Release state it must contain all required information as our own MR document and all needed legal paragraphs... I believe that Shoot Date is simply the date the photo was taken and Shoot Description can be as simple as, "outing with friends," or "family gathering," or any other simple explanation of where the photo was taken. A Shoot is simply any time a photo is taken and doesn't have to be a professional setup.





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Cassie08
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Message posted at 01/10/2010, 03:17:31 AM by Cassie08
Thanks Red!! I'll run it by support. Thanks for the help. Can I ask you one last question (sorry I'm really new at all this), If its the same model in a say 20 photographs but they are taken on different dates would each picture need its owns model release form? I presume that they do but i wanted to check quickly just incase.



Thanks for your time and help!!



Cassie
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Red
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Message posted at 01/10/2010, 08:55:37 AM by Red
I'm hoping that someone else can chime in to help with your question as I have no images here with models in them. One of these days I might try and shoot people, er I mean photograph them.


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Cassie08
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Message posted at 01/10/2010, 11:01:47 AM by Cassie08
Thanks Red!!! Ive been doing some research today on all of this and still dont know if I need an extra form for each and every shoot of the same model on different days!! But I did however find a generic model release form, it can be downloaded free of charge from Yuri Arcurs' website (arcurs.com). His website itself is a good read aswell.



But thanks again for the help and for getting back to me! Hopefully someone out there knows the answer!!!



Happy shooting!!!!



Cassie
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Adpower99
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Message posted at 01/10/2010, 11:09:44 AM by Adpower99
Having just downloaded the DT model release form, I don't see shoot date or shoot description on there anywhere. Am I missing something? Why do you believe those would be required info?
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Cassie08
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Message posted at 01/10/2010, 15:47:07 PM by Cassie08
Hi Anne,



The reason that I was worried about Shoot date and Shoot description is because when I first started looking into model release forms and realised that I wanted a generic one, the one that I found and downloaded had Shoot Date and Shoot description on it, it was however a recommended one that is known to be accepted by many different sites. But since looking into it in more detail I have found another generic model release form from arcurs.com that is also accepted by many sites. So please dont worry about it, you are not missing anything at all.



Sorry to have confused anyone!



Cassie :))
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Mhamad
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Message posted at 06/30/2013, 04:42:36 AM by Mhamad
is model realise for agreement of the person in the photo?
or just to be sure if this photo is yours or not?
is it necessary to ask the person in the photo that i want to upload your photo on a site?
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Red
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Message edited at 06/30/2013, 15:53:30 PM by Red
Since you have asked this before you need to read more about what a model release is. In a nutshell a model release is signed by all of the people in your photo giving you permission to sell that image. They must be told that you are taking their photo to be sold commercially. You cannot take a picture of a stranger (or family member or friend) and sell it without their knowledge or without them signing a form giving you permission to do so.

Also, if they ask, you do not know ahead of time who will buy it or where they will use it and this must be made clear to the people signing the release. All people in the picture must sign the release and you must sign the release saying you are the one who took the picture. If there are small children they need another adult to sign for them.

If you take a picture of people and do not have them sign a release you can still sell it under a different license called editorial, but it must be newsworthy. When you upload photos here you have the choice to sell it as a commercial (RF) or editorial image when you are processing the image. Reviews are done differently on these images and the reviewer will decide if the image is newsworthy. If they don't believe it is, they will reject it. If that editorial image is purchased it cannot be used commercially, or to sell something. It can only be used in a news or information article.

Here is a good start if you cannot understand the information that is provided by Dreamstime. A model release is a legal document so you might also want to check the law in your country. I know that you are not a native english speaker but perhaps you can have this page translated.
Wikipedia - Model Release

Here is a good example of an image without a release that was uploaded as editorial. No one signed a release. It is used in articles about crowds, sporting events, or about that specific sporting stadium. It cannot be used to sell anything but can be used if someone is writing a news or information article.

   Stadium Crowd of Fans   


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Mhamad
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Message posted at 06/30/2013, 16:53:50 PM by Mhamad
thanks red your answer was very helpful, and you are right i am not native english speaker and this is my problem that i can't understand all things clear.
about your image it was downloaded 65 times, isn't mean that it was sold?
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Red
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Message posted at 06/30/2013, 22:26:13 PM by Red
Yes, it was sold as an editorial image 65 times. Editorial as well as the "regular" or royalty free (and free does NOT mean free) images are sold for the same money. They are bought and used for different purposes but the price is the same. A download is a sale and images can be sold many, many times. An upload is when you move your pictures to the Dreamstime site from your computer to be offered for sale, like you did for your 31 images.


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Mhamad
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Message posted at 07/03/2013, 09:37:53 AM by Mhamad
do you mean all my uploaded images are just like your image when they are sold the price the same for my images?
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