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Dealing with the sky in landscapes

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Gmargittai
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 01:23:28 AM by Gmargittai
New article posted: Dealing with the sky in landscapes


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FabioConcetta
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 02:11:12 AM by FabioConcetta
Small tutorial, but very useful and well explained, congratulations!
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Physi28
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 04:35:07 AM by Physi28
thanks for the tutorial, well explained!
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Chanevy
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 06:56:36 AM by Chanevy
Thank you! Very concise and very helpful.
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 12:42:30 PM by Digitalexpressionimages
Or you could pick up a graduated neutral density filter. Easier and works very well in most situations.
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Halilin
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 14:58:10 PM by Halilin
thanks...
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Blueiris07
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 15:51:28 PM by Blueiris07
I have not as yet tried your technique. I usually make a levels adjustment then use the history brush to ring back the exposure in areas that do not need the adjustment. I have had good luck doing this. Is there a reason to expect better results using your technique?
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Androniques
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Message edited at 07/25/2012, 16:48:04 PM by Androniques
Hi Gavril,

Thanks for a nicely put method. :)
I used to do exactly as you describe (apart from choosing the underexposure degree depending on the relative top/bottom brightness difference, which is obvious). However, often when I needed to step down that much, 1 stop or more, the brightening step for the lower non-sky part would bring up some of the hidden noise in those darkish underexposed areas. It was mostly alright for myself and my friends, but when I started uploading in microstock, the noise level appeared to be unacceptable, resulting in refusals. Eventually I gave up this method, and now most often use ND and CP filters.

Please, do not take my remark as criticism. Maybe I am missing something that you did not mention. Could you comment on this noise issue. Thanks in advance. Great landscapes, btw!
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Nigelspiers
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 17:55:21 PM by Nigelspiers
Hi Gavril,

I agree - white skies spoil a photo and it almost drove me mad until I bought a Hoya circular polaroid filter for $85. Bingo! - no more white skies. I now leave this filter on for every outdoor photo I take because it increases the overall color saturation and produces fabulously detailed skies. I now just need to adjust the exposure on each shot.
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Mike2focus
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Message posted at 07/25/2012, 22:35:41 PM by Mike2focus
Andromantic makes a very good point. If you have to lighten the areas that are too dark in post production, noise will be exposed. It can be an issue. That's why bracketing capabilities are so important to have on your camera. Set up a five exposure bracket and then select the best shot of the sky and mask in the best shot of the land. This way you're getting the correct exposure for both, but you don't have to push anything in post production that will expose any noise!

That being said... I agree with Nigelspiers, too. Slapping on a filter that is appropriate for the situation would be the easiest way :-)
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Gmargittai
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Message posted at 07/26/2012, 00:12:43 AM by Gmargittai
Thanks for all the comments,
Indeed there are different methods of achieving this. The ND filter has been invented just for this purpose but forgive me saying is old technology. It belongs to film cameras although no doubt it works. With Photoshop one can achieve a much more precise tuning. And of course nothing beats bracketing your shot and combining the images. For best results with this a tripod is essential, but one can argue that for landscapes tripod is essential anyway.
I like playing with masks. :)


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Androniques
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Message posted at 07/26/2012, 06:14:33 AM by Androniques
Yep, it may sometimes be a little awkward to play with real filters in the field, e.g. when it's windy. Recently I found that software gradient filters can also be applied during raw post-processing, which produces much less noise. Btw, I also like using masks and blended layers. :)
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Dprogers
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Message posted at 08/03/2012, 02:05:08 AM by Dprogers
Lightroom has a good graduated filter capability, with the advantage of changing the angle and steps of graduation.
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