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Critique please?

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Transformx
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Message edited at 12/18/2012, 09:22:06 AM by Transformx
Hi everyone! I would like some thoughts and suggestions on this photo that was refused/rejected.    Image not available or id is incorrect.   

I see that since it was rejected it cannot be reviewed in the message board....sorry for the inconvenience!

I will email support to find out what needs to be completed....thank you!!!
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 12/18/2012, 13:25:13 PM by Miraclemoments
Good luck...just keep trying and persisting...sooner or later you will get it!!
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Red
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Message posted at 12/18/2012, 14:10:11 PM by Red
Frankly, I'd cut out some of the keywords on this image (I didn't look at the other two).

    Train Station in Historical Flagstaff   

architecture arizona arrival brick building business city commuter departure depot design destinations electric flagstaff green high-speed historic historical history horizontal industrial industry interior landmark metal modern old parking passenger platform rail railroad railway red restored retro road sight speed station style technology terminal tourism tourist train trains transit transport transportation travel usa victorian-architecture voyage

I'd get rid of business (overused, if you search on business you would not expect to get an image of a historic train station), city (this isn't a pic of a city), industrial, industry, interior (this is an exterior), metal (what is metal - is metal an important part of the image), modern (I thought this was victorian which is not modern), parking, road, sight, speed, technology, voyage (associated with the ocean). Also you have a hypenated word and DT doesn't recognize hypens in the way you think. Just a few suggestions, but title and description are important and the fewer "extra" keywords the better.


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Transformx
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Message edited at 12/18/2012, 14:31:05 PM by Transformx

Hi, Red.... the image you posted was accepted. The one they did not accept is not showing in my portfolio at all. Its a photo of a motel sign isolated on a blue sky. Thanks for the suggestions though!!

Miraclemoments...thank you ! I will keep uploading. The learning process is interesting and very different than fine art photography!
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Wisconsinart
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Message posted at 12/18/2012, 22:51:45 PM by Wisconsinart

Originally posted by Transformx:
Quoted Message: very different than fine art photography!


Whoa... people who have been here for years have yet to figure that out...
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Astormfr
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Message posted at 12/19/2012, 07:58:18 AM by Astormfr
suggestion: upload more. We need more online photos to give you a feed back.

Red, I do agree that there are some keyword that are not full relevant but what is the issue with having to much keywords?

I have always though that more keywords, the the better??
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Red
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Message posted at 12/19/2012, 09:50:01 AM by Red
Many keywords are ok if they are relevant. This from an admin -

"Keywording must respect the content of the image. It must be as precise as possible, spot-on, so to speak. Don't over-fill with keywords that are either irrelevant or too concept oriented in-spite of real visual content. On the other hand, try to think and re-think, try to look at that image at least two different times, from as many perspectives, so that you get a more comprehensive set of keywords, so that you don't miss or omit keywords that are actually essential."


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Transformx
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Message posted at 12/19/2012, 10:16:41 AM by Transformx
Astormfr ... thanks for the feedback. I do have other images in the review process, the one that I was needing feedback on cant be viewed I guess. I try to put myself in the developer's shoes when I keyword and include everything that may be relevant. What is relevant for one designer may not be relevant for another. I've seen developers buy an image only for a small cropped portion of a lamp post and part of a building :)

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Enigmacypher
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Message posted at 12/19/2012, 10:58:58 AM by Enigmacypher
From my understanding, the more keywords you have the lower the weight that is given to each of those keywords. Yes, you'll be found in more searches, but you may not be placed as high in the search engine for a search that only uses a couple of those words. You might find this interview with Dreamstime admin Carmen Pietraru (aka "Tangie") interesting to watch. In it, she discusses keywording, use of titles, and writing descriptions for Dreamstime. The interview is several years old, but it still may be rather useful.


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Transformx
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Message posted at 12/19/2012, 11:33:27 AM by Transformx
Enigmacyper....great, thank you! I have found that each agency is different with regard to how they want their keywording done. I tried only 2-3 main keywords at first and the images did not even show up on the search. Then I tried a few more relavent keywords and my views got better.
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Enigmacypher
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Message edited at 12/19/2012, 12:17:31 PM by Enigmacypher
It's definitely a balancing act. You have to find what works best for you, and you may find that it varies from image to image (or theme to theme). 2-3 keywords is probably too few for any image (I think they recommend at least 10 and closer to 20-30). 50 is probably too many for almost all images (but again, there are likely exceptions).

Also, keep in mind that Dreamstime's search engines take a few days to get updated, so you won't be able to see the changes in placement immediately. In most cases, images won't even show up in the engine at all for about 3 or so days after approval.


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