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Mturhanlar
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Message posted at 02/03/2013, 14:00:11 PM by Mturhanlar
Im trying to increase my portfolio here on dreamstime but I dont have any sales.. its already 3 month Im here but I sold just one of my photography.. How I can increase that number? and is it normal for 3 months?
Canon Eos 1000D, canon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6, flash, umbrella, ...

Uploaded files:356 | Total Sales: 24
Wisconsinart
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Message posted at 02/03/2013, 16:00:36 PM by Wisconsinart
You're making the same mistakes and assumptions new Contributors many times make:

(1) Keywording is a skill unto itself. Many of your images need to be tightened up with their keywords.

(2) Not understanding STOCK and the BUSINESS of stock. Many of the images in your portfolio are subjects that do not sell well. Try to focus on subjects Buyers are seeking.

(3) Many images in your portfolio are over-done subjects with lots of competition. For example, if you're going to upload an image of a kitten, it better be one that makes a Buyer pee in their pants because it's so much better than all the other kitty pictures. Otherwise, the stock world does not need another cat picture.

(4) Following the herd; instead of doing what everyone else does, try to come up with fresh. new, unique, and innovative ideas that no one has thought of or tried before.

Points 1 thru 4 are easier said than done but that's what you signed up for when you jumped into the stock industry.
Nikon D800, D100, Canon G15

Uploaded files:1844 | Total Sales: 10100
Parkinsonsniper
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Message edited at 02/04/2013, 03:41:28 AM by Parkinsonsniper
Tobe honest, you have 45 pics online at the moment, but maximum 15-16 of them are stock oriented...and as Wisconsinart mentioned, they are well crowded subjects.

Take a look around you to see what kind of pictures you can find, that are used in magazines and advertisements maybe. Use the search engine and get familiar with the selling and not selling concepts. Increasing the quantitiy of your portfolio won't really help you in terms of sales, you need quantity and quality at the same time.

Use well known photographic techniques like DoF, negative space, copyspace etc to emphisize your main subject.

One more thing is, you can consider about going exclusive in Dreamstime, it will bring you many advantages.
- 2x Nikon D300 - Olympus e-PM1 - Nikkor 20mm f2.8 ...

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Silent47
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Message posted at 02/04/2013, 09:59:29 AM by Silent47
And here I was thinking that I am not able to do something new:)
Wisconsinart and Parkinsonsniper said all you need to know
Nikon D7000 / /SB-600 Speedlight /AF-S Micro-Nikkor 60mm f...

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Mturhanlar
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Message posted at 02/04/2013, 12:42:30 PM by Mturhanlar

Originally posted by Wisconsinart:
Quoted Message: You`re making the same mistakes and assumptions new Contributors many times make:(1) Keywording is a skill unto itself. Many of your images need to be tightened up with their keywords.(2) Not understanding STOCK and the BUSINESS of stock. Many of the images in your portfolio are subjects that do not sell well. Try to focus on subjects Buyers are seeking.(3) Many images in your portfolio are over-done subjects with lots of competition. For example, if you`re going to upload an image of a kitten, it better be one that makes a Buyer pee in their pants because it`s so much better than all the other kitty pictures. Otherwise, the stock world does not need another cat picture.(4) Following the herd; instead of doing what everyone else does, try to come up with fresh. new, unique, and innovative ideas that no one has thought of or tried before.Points 1 thru 4 are easier said than done but that`s what you signed up for when you jumped into the stock industry.



Before I took a photo Im thinking on it and trying to do that not exist in here. but all my ideas are already done :) and it gives me sad:) how do you think before takin stock photography ?
Canon Eos 1000D, canon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6, flash, umbrella, ...

Uploaded files:356 | Total Sales: 24
Wisconsinart
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Message posted at 02/04/2013, 19:46:26 PM by Wisconsinart

Originally posted by Mturhanlar:
Quoted Message: how do you think before takin stock photography ?


I brainstorm for ideas. When concepts begin to form into tangible ideas, I sit down with paper and pencil and plan out my shooting sessions.

For example: The "Isolated Tomato."

What do you need to shoot a tomato and isolate it from the background? Obviously you need a tomato. Round up the props you need for the shoot.

How are you going to isolate it? It's a whole lot easier if you take a white bed sheet or shower curtain and set the tomato on that instead of a checkered tablecloth.

You just went through a whole lot of trouble for ONE picture. Well... what else can you do?

How about a shot of the tomato cut in half with a knife on a cutting board. Arrange it nice so it can be used as a background.

Now take one half of the tomato and cut it into slices. Take another picture with thew slices and other half all arranged in a nice composition.

Take the half and cut it into chunks and use it as garnish on a dish.

Use the slices and put them on a sandwich. Throw in a bowl of soup and a glass of milk.

THIS is one way of managing your stock time. Come up with a concept and figure out variations to maximize the session. 99.9% of the stockers out there shoot the tomato and stop because they failed to sit down with paper and pencil and PLAN THEIR SHOOT.

And that is why 99.9% of the stockers out there shoot their cat, the sunset, and pretty flowers, and virtually nothing else.

Well, OK, before anyone is offended, it's still fun to take pictures of cats, sunsets, and flowers. There's no sunset at 10:00 AM and the cat's asleep and it's winter so there are no flowers, maybe it's time to change gears and shoot stock?

And step away from that camera... good, that's it, set it down slowly. Now walk over to the table, you see that paper and pencil over there? Use those to start planning your next shoot, the camera is the last thing you pick up.

The tomato exercise can be applied to just about anything. Ideas, props, logistics, the session, all planned out in advance. Do you think Yuri Arcurs walks into a room full of models and asks "What shall we do today?" He's got the day already scripted.
Nikon D800, D100, Canon G15

Uploaded files:1844 | Total Sales: 10100
Lenutaidi
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Message posted at 02/06/2013, 08:14:00 AM by Lenutaidi
Hi!Please look at my picture "lion cub with cat":
   lion cub with cat    
I like to think it is an image that can sell well on stock....but reality is different....Neither she nor others in the same series:   lionet and cat       feline family       Image not available or id is incorrect.       great love   
After a discussion here on the DT blog(many views,but no sales
I concluded that I was wrong when I upload and I believe in their potential.This is it.In stock have to think a concept to be successful in sales.I did not think when I made those pictures:)
I wish you all the best and good luck!


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Message posted at 07/15/2014, 06:38:18 AM by Lindaelizabeth
Wisconsinart--thanks for the very helpful and encouraging answer you posted up above. Definitely some great ideas that I will try to implement.

I joined dreamstime several years ago but only got serious two months ago. I finally have 42 uploads with small amount of views and no sales. (except for sales on the 5 images I uploaded two years ago). I find myself slipping into discouragement, but then come back to reality and realize that it's only been a short time since I began in earnest in the middle of May of this year.

My question is: when uploading an image, is it advantageous to make it exclusive to dreamstime? Some of them are, but I left the box unchecked for some of the newer ones. What is the advantage? At this time I'm not submitting to any other agency anyway, but still wondering if I should check that box. Thanks for your help.


Uploaded files:53 | Total Sales: 9
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Message posted at 07/15/2014, 09:04:11 AM by Scattoselvaggio
Lenutaidi, try to shoot same pics with the camera closer to the ground
Not so important.

Uploaded files:455 | Total Sales: 602
Slugmonkey
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Message edited at 07/15/2014, 11:16:10 AM by Slugmonkey
I have 50+ images and some of my images are approaching nearly 50 views with still no sales but it has only been about 1 month. I really am just starting to wrap my head around this and just finished 4 edits on what I thought were strong concepts, they were initially refused because of identifiable properties but I am now learning editing software and have removed the offensive bits so hopefully I will have them accepted I am trying to upload 10 picts a day and since I have made that commitment I have about 60 awaiting revue .... it is amazing to me how some picts will get 30 views right after loading them and then nothing .... I have been researching images trying to locate certain objects and these are what I have been concentrating on when I find one with few images and also do multiple searches for same image although I still throw in an odd tree or bug just to keep myself entertained. Do you think that location matters much as to differentiate we will say european tractors versus american tractors ....some items I search I find european images but few or no american versions so I have been trying to load the US versions, do you think this is a good practice or is it a waste of time ?
Canon Rebel EOS Olympus Stylus Waterproof

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Janprid
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Message posted at 07/16/2014, 09:10:17 AM by Janprid
Wisconsinart thanks for the info as I'm fairly new and didn't think about planning like your example. I must say I have quite a lot of problems trying to sort the right image and get a fair few refused. But I'll give your example a go and hopefully will get it right in the end.

Never say never
Panasonic Lumix LZ20 Bridge camera

Uploaded files:34 | Total Sales: 0
Deaconbrown
47 posts
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Message posted at 07/24/2014, 22:14:18 PM by Deaconbrown
Pay attention to Wisconsinart! It will help your sales,
Nikon d7000

Uploaded files:100 | Total Sales: 33
Trulight911
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Message posted at 07/26/2014, 06:16:40 AM by Trulight911
It just takes time, Once you start getting a few sales then you start seeing concepts that work.
Canon Rebel XSI 18-55mm IS Kit Lens 55-250mm IS Telephoto ...

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Message posted at 07/26/2014, 06:41:04 AM by Lindaelizabeth
I posted this question a while back. Can anyone help?

My question is: when uploading an image, is it advantageous to make it exclusive to dreamstime? Some of them are, but I left the box unchecked for some of the newer ones. What is the advantage? At this time I'm not submitting to any other agency anyway, but still wondering if I should check that box. Thanks for your help.


Uploaded files:53 | Total Sales: 9
Slugmonkey
41 posts
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Message posted at 07/28/2014, 09:04:47 AM by Slugmonkey
Wisconsinart ... do you just do studio work or are you opportunistic as well ... do you see something while driving down the road and stop the car and get out and shoot it or do you simply plan ahead and then go get those shots .... I have been monitoring several local construction sites and taking certain picts ..... I am sure as well that picts taken at certain times of the year do better at other times of the year .... ideally I would be concentrating on thanksgiving, Halloween, christmas type shots, have you noticed this type of activity or am I wrong about it ..... I currently have 131 picts online and have more in review and even more to edit .... I have several other ideas about possible locations and objects in mind ..... thanks by the way I have started reducing the number of images of a certain object when I upload them ... my acceptance rate is around 40% now and steadily climbing .....
Canon Rebel EOS Olympus Stylus Waterproof

Uploaded files:190 | Total Sales: 3
Missdolphin
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Message posted at 08/01/2014, 06:47:59 AM by Missdolphin
Very useful suggestions, think before photograph.
Nikon | Canon | Sony

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Message posted at 08/06/2014, 09:49:11 AM by Paulliversagephotography
hi all, come across this thread and and starting to sit down and plan excursions during free time to increase and improve my small portfolio, i also sometimes get discouraged but then realize i am a new "stocker" and am always learning each time i click that shutter and review what i have taken
Canon EOS 1100D Canon 18-55mm, Sigma 70-300mm, Lightbox wit...

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Deaconbrown
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Message posted at 08/06/2014, 10:20:28 AM by Deaconbrown
Planning is critical! For me it increases the volume of uploadable images, but
I still grab shots that appear seemingly out of nowhere...My sales tho, are mostly of images that i planned and prepared and spent time before I shot even one pic.
Nikon d7000

Uploaded files:100 | Total Sales: 33
Starsphinx
15 posts
Message posted at 08/17/2014, 11:43:41 AM by Starsphinx
OK I dont know if this plan works as I still have no sales - but I have started searching DT for the images I come up with the idea to take before I take them to see how "crowded" the field is - if my idea turns out to have hundreds like it with no sales then I dont bother - if there are only a few with good sales then I go ahead. I am not heavily uploading at the moment as limited by health but the planning is there.
Nikon

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Declanmair
5 posts
Message posted at 08/20/2014, 05:19:01 AM by Declanmair
Kind of in the same bout but the points from Wisconsinart are true! My strategy (not completed yet) is to upload loads! Obviously keeping quality before quantity but looking to more commercial subjects.


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