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Question on whether I should submit an Image

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Sml
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Message posted at 02/24/2013, 08:15:37 AM by Sml
Hi DT,

I have an image of a wild turkey and a squirrel staring at each other (closeup) The squirrel is practically face to face with the turkey. The squirrel is in total focus as is the face of the turnkey staring back. But this is where I am not sure whether to upload or not. The turkey is not totally in focus e.g. his back is facing the camera but the feathers are not totally in focus.

Should I just forget uploading or try?

Susan
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Message posted at 02/24/2013, 11:09:18 AM by AGLphotoproductions
Hi

If you are contributor upload all what you have. If you are buyer buy what you need.

Cheers

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Wisconsinart
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Message edited at 02/24/2013, 15:55:12 PM by Wisconsinart
It's going to be a subjective issue. If the image "works well" with out-of-focus sections it will probably be approved. What do YOU think? Is it a good picture as is or does the out of focus portion detract from the image?

And since it's subjective, you may be at the mercy of the Reviewer. Some Reviewers require in-focus No-Matter-What, others will see it with a different viewpoint. For example, in photography there is the Rule-Of-Thirds rule; some people insist the rule be followed every time and all the time, others will allow the rules to be broken.

Sometimes I will crop an image to remove an out of focus corner because of depth of field issues.
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Sml
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Message posted at 02/24/2013, 16:59:21 PM by Sml
Thank you for you input. I will look at the image again from your point of view, and decide. The reason I asked the question as I am having a hard time to decide if it does work....now I will ask some friends if they thing the out of focus section is a distraction. Maybe if I crop it a little. Once again thank you. susan
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Mudplucker
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Message posted at 02/24/2013, 22:43:10 PM by Mudplucker
I totally agree too, that if the photo works, then it works and could be accepted ! First, what word/words will a buyer type into a search to come up with this photo as the search result ? Will the search word have something to do with the squirrel or the turkey (or both?) ??? If you want to draw the viewer to the faces of the 2 animals then you may benefit from other areas being out of focus. So sounds like a "Standoff" between the 2 animals could very well be a new photo here at DT, depending on the reviewer and whether or not it meets technical merits (composition, noise, sharpness, focus, Chromatic aberration)... i'll be watching, hope it makes it ! We all get rejects, so does not hurt to try it !
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 02/25/2013, 00:51:54 AM by Miraclemoments
Upload it and see...if they reject they will give a reason. I have found that when some areas that are out of focus due to aperture settings are not definable when they should be the image is rejected for DOF issues.

If you can still see that the out of focus area is feathers and the area does not detract from the image i.e OOF area is in the wrong place, the I think you have a good chance.

Good luck
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Miketea
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Message posted at 02/25/2013, 05:46:35 AM by Miketea
that photo sounds awesome. get it on
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Sml
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Message posted at 02/25/2013, 07:49:10 AM by Sml
Well I just uploaded and we will see in about a week what the reviewers think. I hope so the squirrel sure has a lot of nerve.

I was feeding Blue jays from my ice feeders and the squirrels of course have to have their share, but then wild turkeys flew up to the deck and started to take over. My deck does not have stairs and the turkeys have to fly up 10 feet. Was fun at first but the turkeys are driving my dog crazy so I stopped feeding everyone. Thanks for the posts. Susan
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Danielc1998
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Message edited at 02/25/2013, 13:53:17 PM by Danielc1998
Out of focus is not necessarily something bad. If you look at this image I uploaded, the owl facing the camera is the main subject and is perfectly in focus, while his companion is slightly blurred due to a shallow DOF. Upload the image and let the editors to decide ;-)
   couple of Barn Owls or Common Barn Owls   
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Danielc1998
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Message posted at 02/25/2013, 13:57:39 PM by Danielc1998
oops!!, i did not see your last post. You have already uploaded the photo ;-)
good luck then !
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Message posted at 02/26/2013, 02:12:32 AM by Robinstockphotos
I sold this file recently    Black winged stilt pair in lake Chilika, India   

The bird behind the first one is a little blurred but they accepted it anyway. For wildlife shots, if the subjects are same and if the eye(s) of at least one dominating subject is in focus nicely, they should most probably accept it.
Since you have two subjects here, the eyes of both should be in focus if both are significant. You could try sharpening the head of the blurred subject using a large radius like 25 px. That doesn't damage the photo like 4 px or 10 px sharpening but makes it better.
They should accept it, if they don't, maybe try this. :)
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 02/26/2013, 05:47:12 AM by Afagundes
This is a business, not art, if the image works and have impact, upload it, they want the best quality and perfection in order to have the most impact so to speak.
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Danielc1998
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Message edited at 02/26/2013, 08:26:25 AM by Danielc1998

Originally posted by Afagundes:
Quoted Message: This is a business, not art, if the image works and have impact, upload it, they want the best quality and perfection in order to have the most impact so to speak.


Art is also a business ;-)
As I see it this is art too since it involves creativity and imagination, commercial art if you like. An image will work and have impact or not depending on your artistic skills.
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Brmonico
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Message posted at 02/26/2013, 11:56:00 AM by Brmonico

Originally posted by Sml:
Quoted Message: Hi DT,I have an image of a wild turkey and a squirrel staring at each other (closeup) The squirrel is practically face to face with the turkey. The squirrel is in total focus as is the face of the turnkey staring back. But this is where I am not sure whether to upload or not. The turkey is not totally in focus e.g. his back is facing the camera but the feathers are not totally in focus. Should I just forget uploading or try? Susan


You will never sell this or other image without upload them....simple as that :))
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Sml
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Message posted at 03/07/2013, 06:16:10 AM by Sml
Thanks everyone for your advise....it was accepted, and here it is.

   Funny Staring Contest   
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Danielc1998
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Message posted at 03/07/2013, 07:59:35 AM by Danielc1998
funny couple. Sure will soon find a buyer :-)
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Brmonico
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Message posted at 03/07/2013, 11:26:06 AM by Brmonico
See...it is a great and funny image. Congrats.
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Sml
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Message posted at 03/07/2013, 11:40:45 AM by Sml
Thanks Daniel and Brmonico, I just added Funny to title, description and keywords.....
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 03/07/2013, 12:55:48 PM by Miraclemoments
well done...thought it would be accepted
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 03/07/2013, 16:09:32 PM by Afagundes

Originally posted by Danielc1998:
Quoted Message: Art is also a business ;-) As I see it this is art too since it involves creativity and imagination, commercial art if you like. An image will work and have impact or not depending on your artistic skills.


Ok, let me put it in a different way, art sells well if it has a purpose that the buyer can use it.

I meant he wont probably buy it to hang on his wall, but to use it in an advertising, to ilustrate a magazine, in a newspaper, a website, ...., so its like an "applied" form of art :)
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