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Reluctant Models

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Igordabari
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Message posted at 06/23/2013, 10:18:12 AM by Igordabari

Originally posted by Alvera:
Quoted Message: I expect some math here. How many more pixels means this 13%? I started the new thread, waiting for you and other science people there :)


13% more :) It is not crucial, I believe...
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Nikon4004
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Message posted at 06/24/2013, 12:15:30 PM by Nikon4004
I use my granson with the stipulation that any income fomr the images of him go to his college fund.
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Lisafx
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Message posted at 06/24/2013, 13:33:52 PM by Lisafx
I find it's best just not to use "reluctant" models (especially kids with reluctant parents). It is really tempting to try and talk people into signing releases when you've taken a good picture of them. In the end though, a reluctant model or parent will always worry, even if you manage to get the release, and I end up worrying more about those pictures too.

Sellling through reputable agencies like Dreamstime, there are protections against misuse in place, but no license is foolproof. Pictures might still be misused. Models, amateur or professional, friend or stranger, should understand the risks. If they aren't comfortable with those risks, sad to say, they are not right for your portfolio no matter how cute the pictures are.
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Alvera
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Message posted at 06/24/2013, 20:01:43 PM by Alvera
Good point. Very good.
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Lenutaidi
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Message posted at 06/24/2013, 22:44:13 PM by Lenutaidi

Originally posted by Igordabari:
Quoted Message: SuperMoon does not deserve a new thread, Your majesty. Since 13% difference is hardly noticed... No reasons for excitation. Just a Moon which can we shot. Not less. But not more.

I agree with Igor!Please do not get angry,my KING Alvera:)


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Gmargittai
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Message posted at 06/25/2013, 00:59:48 AM by Gmargittai
I am playing tennis in the mornings and at our club there are four wonderful old ladies well past their seventies that come and play doubles 3 times a week. I thought what a wonderful subject of active elderly this could be. No need to fake anything. Everything real and convincing. So I went and very politely asked them if they are willing to pose. They were very suspicious. Even before I came to discuss signing a release, one of them says, OK she agrees but please promise the picture will not appear on the internet. No no no not on the INTERNET. So I took a few pictures, the weather cooperated it was a cloudy day with perfect light. The pictures came out very well, they were in a very good mood, lots of laughing and fun. I printed for each of them a 5x7 on metalic paper and that was it. I wish I could show you the pictures but a promise is a promise. Not on the internet.


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Miketea
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Message posted at 06/25/2013, 06:11:03 AM by Miketea
@Jormonago

If you can get one for a woman vomiting you shouldn't have a problem ha!
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Alvera
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Message posted at 06/25/2013, 18:19:42 PM by Alvera

Originally posted by Gmargittai:
Quoted Message: I wish I could show you the pictures but a promise is a promise. Not on the internet.


Editorial section is not located on the Internet, is just for us, please post those pictures with the wonderful old ladyes! :))

Seriously now, what rules are on that club? Can you take pictures and post them here as editorial or on the Internet? Or is a privat place? What rules are in your country in this case? Can you make photos on the street and put as editorial?
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Alvera
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Message posted at 06/25/2013, 18:21:58 PM by Alvera

Originally posted by Lenutaidi:
Quoted Message: I agree with Igor!Please do not get angry,my KING Alvera:)


Did you see my picture on blog/fb? Still agree that was a waste of time? :) Please zoom in, you will see an UFO landing.
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Myersct
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Message posted at 06/25/2013, 18:42:34 PM by Myersct
Lisafx,

You make a very good point.
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Lenutaidi
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Message posted at 06/26/2013, 03:40:22 AM by Lenutaidi

Originally posted by Alvera:
Quoted Message: Did you see my picture on blog/fb? Still agree that was a waste of time? :) Please zoom in, you will see an UFO landing.

Just kidding,Alvera!:)I hope you did not lose them sense of humor!:)Your picture with the moon is amazing!Really you did a great work!Congratulations!


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Alvera
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Message posted at 06/26/2013, 07:36:57 AM by Alvera

Originally posted by Lenutaidi:
Quoted Message: Just kidding,Alvera!:)I hope you did not lose them sense of humor!:)Your picture with the moon is amazing!Really you did a great work!Congratulations!


My sense of humor is here, don't worry :) So, tell me, did you see that UFO? I know people speending a life looking for UFO and never see one. I've made about 10 pictures and oops! :))
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Lisafx
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Message posted at 06/28/2013, 12:43:28 PM by Lisafx

Originally posted by Gmargittai:
Quoted Message: I am playing tennis in the mornings and at our club there are four wonderful old ladies well past their seventies that come and play doubles 3 times a week. I thought what a wonderful subject of active elderly this could be. No need to fake anything. Everything real and convincing. So I went and very politely asked them if they are willing to pose. They were very suspicious. Even before I came to discuss signing a release, one of them says, OK she agrees but please promise the picture will not appear on the internet. No no no not on the INTERNET. So I took a few pictures, the weather cooperated it was a cloudy day with perfect light. The pictures came out very well, they were in a very good mood, lots of laughing and fun. I printed for each of them a 5x7 on metalic paper and that was it. I wish I could show you the pictures but a promise is a promise. Not on the internet.


This is a great story! I am sure the images would have made great stock. Good for you for keeping your promise to them, no matter how difficult :)

Who knows, now that you've established trust with them, they may reconsider the "no internet" rule in the future...?
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Mudplucker
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Message posted at 06/28/2013, 16:15:18 PM by Mudplucker
Jormonago, if that is Penfield Illinois I'd hire you to be my model ! But seriously, if you explain it the right way the parents are a lot less nervous about it. Took me awhile to get my 9 year old god daughter's mom to "like" the idea but now her whole family of 5 is gonna start participating for me :)
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Lenutaidi
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Message posted at 06/28/2013, 23:36:56 PM by Lenutaidi

Originally posted by Alvera:
Quoted Message: My sense of humor is here, don`t worry :) So, tell me, did you see that UFO? I know people speending a life looking for UFO and never see one. I`ve made about 10 pictures and oops! :))

Yes my King I see a lot of UFOs in my portofolio....:))You've seen them?:))


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Alvera
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Message posted at 06/28/2013, 23:41:24 PM by Alvera
For green little things with big eyes, coming from Space, you need a model release? :)
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