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Opinion needed on placement.

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Mckown
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Message posted at 11/14/2004, 14:46:42 PM by Mckown
I have been leaving a loy of space on the side of pics isolated on solid white background, and also have been removing all shadows making just pure white. Am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help!!
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Ronbloom
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Message posted at 11/14/2004, 15:03:24 PM by Ronbloom
Pure white is fine I think most designers preffer this but, be careful that your not leaving too much space as it could be seen as just trying to make the image larger. It also takes more server space.
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Mckown
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Message posted at 11/14/2004, 15:10:09 PM by Mckown
Ronbloom, Thanks for the advice. I had been wondering if it was a problem.
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Jan
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Message posted at 11/14/2004, 19:40:10 PM by Jan
As a designer I really appreciate the extra effort it takes to provide isolations on white. I can add extra white space myself so I prefer the subject of the image to be as large as possible.


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Mckown
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Message posted at 11/14/2004, 19:44:30 PM by Mckown
Thanks Jan, I'll work on it.
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Achilles
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Message posted at 11/15/2004, 03:50:55 AM by Achilles - member is an admin
On isolated objects the lighting setup is extremely important. If the light is too low, no matter how careful you are on removing the background, the viewer will still have the strange feeling of a "dirty" item. If you shoot a white mobile phone for example, the white on its panel will be in fact grey due to low lighting. Considering the pure white background this will create an annoying effect.



It's important to use a good lighting setup and maybe overexpose by one stop to be sure you avoid this.


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Mckown
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Message posted at 11/15/2004, 14:58:44 PM by Mckown
Good lighting is very important yes!! Problem with me right now is having that good lighting. Now, if I upload BETTER quality pics and get a lot of sales I could have $$$ and buy those lights,,, LOL to me, HO HO !!
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Achilles
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Message posted at 11/15/2004, 15:57:40 PM by Achilles - member is an admin
You don't have to go for Alien Bees right now, simple plain halogen ligths will be enough for beginning. You should get around 3000-5000 W and plenty of room because it will get really hot, but it's a good compromise until you make enough sales.


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Showface
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Message posted at 11/25/2004, 03:42:11 AM by Showface
I read an article a little while ago that mentioned that white is usually never pure white (255,255,255) but actually a shade of very pale grey. Also black is a very dark shade of grey and not pure black. Too much clipping within your object can also be irritating to a user, but if it happens in your images, with care, can be fixed. Here is the article.....



http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/index.php?m=show&id=144



I found it interesting, so I thought to share :)
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Achilles
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Message posted at 11/25/2004, 04:40:24 AM by Achilles - member is an admin
Here is the link

Interesting article indeed.


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Photodesign
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Message posted at 11/25/2004, 07:19:32 AM by Photodesign
Serban... i think 3000-5000W it is too much power light.
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Achilles
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Message posted at 11/25/2004, 07:30:38 AM by Achilles - member is an admin
I was refering to product photography, 3000W I think is Ok...5k is probably too much.

I only have 1000 W and is not enough, the dome is thick and quite dark, images get noisy and the items are not visible enough. It would be impossible to freeze action on water drops for example with 1000W+ dome as diffuser.



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Photodesign
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Message edited at 11/25/2004, 08:13:57 AM by Photodesign
For a high speed action is true it is not enough light. But for that kind of photos it is better and nice to work with dedicated flash light. With halogen lights even at this power (5000W) the colors are not the same like what you see with your eyes. It is about the Temperature Light (it is too low).

All the colors will slightly turn to red. This is very visible only at negatives films and not so much at positive films.

At the digital camera this problem you will fix with custom white balance.

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Achilles
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Message posted at 11/25/2004, 09:09:12 AM by Achilles - member is an admin
Yes, I forgot to mention, I use mainly digital. Halogen with film need a lot of experience and good processing of the photos at the print lab. otherwise the colour tones will be really weird.



If your (digital) camera has it, always use custom white balance with artificial light, auto feature is not that reliable.


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