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| New Prices for 2007 and Free Section Upgrade |
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Red
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Message edited at 03/02/2007, 10:37:27 AM by Red |
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In my opinion, based on several design firms I have worked for, not many designers pay attention to every little price change on every site and base their downloads solely on that. Most are not aware of the inner workings of any stock site and seldom, if ever, even take the time to read the forums.
The whole microstock concept is foreign to many high-end designers and is such a change from only as far back as 3 years ago that they are only beginning to discover the possibilities. For the most part, a designer needs an image, searches all their sources and downloads what they need when they need it. No matter the price. They do not stalk the DT site every day like some photographers do, checking their downloads every hour. Again, they get on, search, download if they find the perfect image and leave.
I would venture a guess that there are less subsciption downloads and more package buys. I know, for a fact that designers have come to DT, found an image they wanted, purchased the lowest package available ($19.99), downloaded one image and not used the rest of their package. $19.99 for even one image is such a bargain when you compare it to a traditional stock image purchase. Give it a month or 2, compare your results and then ask questions or make suggestions. |
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Uploaded files: 62 | Total Sales: 429
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Fullvalue
27 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 10:04:06 AM by Fullvalue |
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I suppose it could just be coincidence but I had my first three subscription downloads after the change- three downloads generating less revenue than prior to the increase not a promising start.
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Currently shooting with Canon Digital Rebel XT
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Uploaded files: 285 | Total Sales: 1460
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Sapsiwai
86 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 10:16:15 AM by Sapsiwai |
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My only concern is who is going to download my Small size pics for 3 credits (level 3)! But I will have to wait and see. |
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Canon Rebel 450D
Canon Rebel 350D
Canon 28-135 IS<...
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Has1sue
421 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 10:29:33 AM by Has1sue |
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All this said ~ to be honest have not really noticed a difference *shrugs*
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Canon 350D
Canon 17-40L Canon 70-200L
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Uploaded files: 254 | Total Sales: 1464
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Stuartkey
891 posts
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Message edited at 03/02/2007, 11:54:53 AM by Stuartkey |
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Does it say anywhere what the minimum required sizes are, in pixels, for each of the new sizes?
For example, I have a photoshop illustration which was turned out at 3.9mp, no reason, just when I'd finished cropping it that's what it was. As a result, it is only available in the Small and Medium sizes.
That's fine. I just wondered what the minimum required pixel size was for Medium and Large... given that for Small it is obviously 3mp and for Maximum it is 8mp.
EDIT: It looks like Large may be set around 5mp mark, but not sure about Medium... it must be quite close to Small?
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Canon 350D - 17-40 f4 L - 70-200 f4 L - 50mm f1.8 II
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Uploaded files: 416 | Total Sales: 2238
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Mk74
40 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 11:49:59 AM by Mk74 |
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My first sale for new (2007) credits - I received 4$ for vector background :-) |
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Sony A100, Olympus C-8080, Corel Draw 11 for illustrations
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Uploaded files: 2333 | Total Sales: 6271
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Drbouz
25 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 12:49:57 PM by Drbouz |
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well, i do not like 0.25c/xl image downloads at all.
as a matter of fact, i did not like that idea at all, so i stopped uploading images at the same moment that i read the new pricing strategy. in fact, i sent only some 15images after that.
i think either that's not fair for other agencies i work with - why should someone pay for my images a few $ somewhere else, when it's possible to buy it here for just 0.25$ in xl size?
i'll wait until june, and, i'll see. - if i am going to erase my all portfolio, or am i going to upload new, i believe until june, it's going to be some 1000-2000 new images (which until that moment are going already to sell on other agencies for 3 or 5 months). |
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Nikon D3, NIkon D200, various lenses, studio and nikon sb fl...
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Uploaded files: 3294 | Total Sales: 2270
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Cathysbelleimage
533 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 14:38:06 PM by Cathysbelleimage |
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Red
I would venture a guess that there are less subsciption downloads and more package buys. I know, for a fact that designers have come to DT, found an image they wanted, purchased the lowest package available ($19.99), downloaded one image and not used the rest of their package. $19.99 for even one image is such a bargain when you compare it to a traditional stock image purchase. Give it a month or 2, compare your results and then ask questions or make suggestions.[/quote]
So, they do not mind paying $19.99 for one image, why giving it up for .25c ???? |
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Canon 40D and 20D, 17-85mm, 100mm, 75-300mm, #filters, lensb...
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Madelaide
196 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 15:17:33 PM by Madelaide |
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Ok, let's see if the 25c sales are few compared to the rest. That would be a relief. I only think that, like others have demonstrated to believe too, the new prices make the subscription more interesting than the per image sale.
I fail to understand however why subscription sales can not be limited to low res images. It seems a fair deal to me.
For the colleague that said we would be changing 25c in site "A" for 25c in here, I would like to remind him that I chose to NOT to be in site "A" because (AGAIN) I don't agree in selling images for so little, even if they sell a lot. It's my choice and I found in DT a place where I could have that. I am in sites that have both subscription and individual sales, but gladly subs are less common.
Regards,
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Mainly Canon A620 for microstock
Traditional photograph...
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Uploaded files: 269 | Total Sales: 793
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Afagundes
372 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 15:52:38 PM by Afagundes |
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Stuart,
I have the same question, after all the discussion, what is a small, medium, large and maximum sizes?
I tryed to look at pictures, but I only have the Web and Print size possibilities, maybe thats because I have only old Credits?
Thanks, |
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Canon EOS 40D
Canon EFS 17-85mm IS/USM
Canon 75-300mm IS/U...
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Uploaded files: 1828 | Total Sales: 2188
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Pixart
28 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 16:03:28 PM by Pixart |
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I guess we'll all see at the end of the month... but I'm having a pretty good day today on my few sales. (No subsrciption sales though!) |
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Nikon D200, Nikon D70S, Nikkor 17-55 2.8, Nikkor 70-200 2.8V...
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Uploaded files: 280 | Total Sales: 964
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Dennist1
320 posts
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Message edited at 03/02/2007, 17:19:09 PM by Dennist1 |
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| Originally posted by Madelaide: |
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Quoted Message: Ok, let's see if the 25c sales are few compared to the rest. That would be a relief. I only think that, like others have demonstrated to believe too, the new prices make the subscription more interesting than the per image sale.
I fail to understand however why subscription sales can not be limited to low res images. It seems a fair deal to me.
For the colleague that said we would be changing 25c in site "A" for 25c in here, I would like to remind him that I chose to NOT to be in site "A" because (AGAIN) I don't agree in selling images for so little, even if they sell a lot. It's my choice and I found in DT a place where I could have that. I am in sites that have both subscription and individual sales, but gladly subs are less common.
Regards,
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I have said a couple of times that although I find the subscription sales more lucrative for me as a total, I still believe contributors should have the choice of withdrawing ... just because its not good business to change contract terms without mutual consent. In short, I agree with you that you should have the choice, I just wouldn't make that choice for myself.
As for my own luck so far ... I can say I haven't lost a penny, but I clearly haven't gained any downloads either... Sales died on me completely here. Can't understand it but I go a couple of weeks with nothing and then the next couple weeks will be several each day - but overall DT is in a good position on my microstock earnings list. I expect it will stabilize to some extent once I get a respectable size port. built up.
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Canon Digital SLR, 30D, 300D. 17-85 F4; 70-200 2.8L, many ot...
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Uploaded files: 339 | Total Sales: 576
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Stuartkey
891 posts
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Message edited at 03/02/2007, 17:53:14 PM by Stuartkey |
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| Originally posted by Afagundes: |
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Quoted Message: Stuart,
I have the same question, after all the discussion, what is a small, medium, large and maximum sizes?
I tryed to look at pictures, but I only have the Web and Print size possibilities, maybe thats because I have only old Credits?
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I guess this kind of answers our questions!
So, Medium is between 3mp and 5mp, and Large is between 5mp and 7.9mp.
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Canon 350D - 17-40 f4 L - 70-200 f4 L - 50mm f1.8 II
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Uploaded files: 416 | Total Sales: 2238
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Pryzmat
150 posts
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Message posted at 03/02/2007, 17:53:12 PM by Pryzmat |
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New prices rock and roll for me!
My sales were pretty stable lately, but almost doubled with the launch of new price scheme, some 2, 2.40 and even 4.80$ DLs, which add quicky.
I already love it!
Thanks DT :-))
Pryzmat |
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Sony R1, KM Dimage A2
Nikon D50 with Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-...
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Uploaded files: 2984 | Total Sales: 11157
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Diane555
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Message edited at 03/02/2007, 18:37:38 PM by Diane555 |
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| Originally posted by Dennist1: |
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I have said a couple of times that although I find the subscription sales more lucrative for me as a total, I still believe contributors should have the choice of withdrawing ... just because its not good business to change contract terms without mutual consent. In short, I agree with you that you should have the choice, I just wouldn't make that choice for myself.
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Agreed. |
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Uploaded files: 0 | Total Sales: 8
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Afagundes
372 posts
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Message edited at 03/02/2007, 18:55:03 PM by Afagundes |
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Thanks Stuart, that was very clarifying.
8MP would be Large or Maximum Size?
My camera takes 3456 x 2304 pixels images (its a Canon 350D).
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Canon EOS 40D
Canon EFS 17-85mm IS/USM
Canon 75-300mm IS/U...
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Uploaded files: 1828 | Total Sales: 2188
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Drbouz
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Message posted at 03/03/2007, 02:17:50 AM by Drbouz |
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| Originally posted by Dennist1: |
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Quoted Message:
I have said a couple of times that although I find the subscription sales more lucrative for me as a total, I still believe contributors should have the choice of withdrawing ... just because its not good business to change contract terms without mutual consent.
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quite right. i believe as a matter of fact that appliance of contract in "backward" is against contract itself. in fact, i think this is not legal, but have no time to bother myself about that.
but that's not the main problem - the main problem for me about all of these is that is not fair!
essence of the every micro stock site are not the customers, but photographers and other contributors, and their work (images, photos, illustrations,..whatever).
it's really not a good business to say: " hey, the contract we had, is no longer valid, and here is a new one, and you HAVE TO AGREE with this, and it is not starting now, but in ... (april 2006?)" if i believe, april is BEFORE december..
but as i already said - i'll wait and see what's going to happen with sails here. if they are the same or increase - i'm still in, if they will be less, i'm out. simple as that. |
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Nikon D3, NIkon D200, various lenses, studio and nikon sb fl...
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Uploaded files: 3294 | Total Sales: 2270
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Stuartkey
891 posts
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Message posted at 03/03/2007, 04:15:28 AM by Stuartkey |
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| Originally posted by Afagundes: |
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Quoted Message: Thanks Stuart, that was very clarifying.
8MP would be Large or Maximum Size?
My camera takes 3456 x 2304 pixels images (its a Canon 350D).
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They have set the threshold for maximum size as something like 7.9mp, to account for cameras which claim to be 8mp but are actually just under.
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Canon 350D - 17-40 f4 L - 70-200 f4 L - 50mm f1.8 II
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Uploaded files: 416 | Total Sales: 2238
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Has1sue
421 posts
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Message edited at 03/03/2007, 04:19:57 AM by Has1sue |
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Well I stopped uploading since the 6 Month commitment thing ~ I like my freedom way to much ;)
but I hope this works out for everyone, and yes I do appreciate that you have to evolve to go forward however I do feel that sometimes the different Agencies are so busy implimenting their latest plans based on $ or Traffic to outdo each other and jostling for position that they forget the suppliers ( thats you and me my friends ) ARE the business ;) :D
A Happy staff is a productive staff Yeah!?
I know Dreamstime have listened to their People in the past and if things do not work out hopefully will do so again
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Canon 350D
Canon 17-40L Canon 70-200L
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Uploaded files: 254 | Total Sales: 1464
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Afagundes
372 posts
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Message posted at 03/03/2007, 04:50:15 AM by Afagundes |
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Thanks again Stuart,
So, our images are considered maximum resolution except if we cropp anything), thats all I wanted to know.
I have experienced a serious increase in my sales on the last two days, both in value and number, DT is on fire!
I am very excited about it.
Good job! |
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Canon EOS 40D
Canon EFS 17-85mm IS/USM
Canon 75-300mm IS/U...
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Uploaded files: 1828 | Total Sales: 2188
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