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A question for all of you web designers out there?

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Alexh
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Message posted at 09/20/2005, 08:30:22 AM by Alexh
HTML kit is excellent (and free) if you like to hand code and it has a plugin that I believe allows wysiwyg type visual design.
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Yevettem
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Message edited at 05/29/2006, 11:33:37 AM by Yevettem

Originally posted by Seagrave:
Quoted Message: What is your opinion on Adobe Go Live? I am not a web designer so I don't know how to code. I need a web publishing program that does a lot of that for me. I only want to learn what I have to. From what I understand a lot of servers don't except frontpage extentions. I have worked with it though and thought it was ok. Thank you for any replies.




I have been designing websites for more than 10 years. If you are not comfortable with hand coding (which is my preference) you can use FrontPage to create websites for servers that do not use FrontPage server extentions. You just can't use any of the Server Extension Controled Components. Which ones are they? If you are not a web designer, and don't know much about code - the simplest think to do is as you make changes to the page - go to HTML View and look for any lines that say "--webbot bot=". These items won't work without the server extensions. They basically include anything under the the "insert components" menu. Timestamps, hit counters, and FP controlled forms.



If you already have FP and don't want to learn how to code, you can use FP to create a simple website for a server that doesn't use the FP server extensions. Just check your page in HTML view as your building it, and make sure there aren't any WebBots in there.



I have the Adobe CS Suite, and I have found GoLive to be generally annoying! It is mostly the little things that drive me crazy. It does have good CSS editing capabilities - but everytime you save your style sheet, the window maximizes! I usually have at least 2 windows in view at all times, and a simple save and publish, maximizes the "saved" window and covers up my other window(s) in view. I found myself constantly resetting my workspace. I have also had the program freeze and blow up on me on several occasions. I have not found a patch to fix the problems. I have abandoned the program all together.



Good luck to you.
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Thereisnosquare
339 posts
Message posted at 05/29/2006, 19:05:52 PM by Thereisnosquare
If you don't want to handcode, Dreamweaver is the best and industry standard. Do not for goodness sake use FrontPage unless you want to spend hours fixing up formatting issues and wondering why your pages don't display as they should.
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Paulagent
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Message posted at 05/30/2006, 09:52:10 AM by Paulagent
i never hand coded in my life :)

i have a couple of programmes from marcromedia but i found the easiest for me was to go the CMS route.

someone earlier mentioned mambo, which is what i started off with but have updated to Joomla now :)

i find it really easy to use, and i have even broken into it a few times to make my own unique alterations. if you want to see what i have accomplished my sebsite is here.
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Message posted at 05/30/2006, 13:14:17 PM by Artistic-impressions
I like Golive. I'm more of a print person but I'm becoming more involved with web design, and I find Golive great. Right now I'm trying to bring a little interactivity to my website so I'M thinking of including Flash in the new design, but because I use Photoshop extensively and most of my designs are based on photography in some way, I like Golive it's great because the dataflow is all Adobe and it is compliments or works well with ImageReady and Photoshop. But if I was completely into interactivity and animation and DHTML, I too would use DreamWeaver. But it's Golive for me.


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Message posted at 05/31/2006, 21:39:48 PM by Lessthanempty
In the 13 years I've been designing, GoLive is one of the worst tools I have ever used. Adobe is a great visual application developer, but they're not too great at developing web-based application software.


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Crystalvenus
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Message posted at 05/31/2006, 23:13:00 PM by Crystalvenus
I have never used Adobe Go Live. But Dreamweaver works very well for me. I do my own website and have basic web knowledge. It will take some working at, but it is a very worthwhile program to learn how to use. My idea is to keep it simple and take it from there. :P



Crystal.
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Kuanchong
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Message posted at 06/01/2006, 00:35:38 AM by Kuanchong
open source CMS are good. I use mambo & Joomla ..



U may need more time to establish but u'll save a lotof time to manage.

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Ichtor
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Message posted at 06/01/2006, 15:07:36 PM by Ichtor
I agree with those who said Dreamweaver is the best. I've been using this for many years and I don't think any other software compares. Now that Adobe has purchased Macromedia, I'm expecting a sort of merger between GoLive and Dreamweaver. Hopefully one that will contain the good features in both.
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Nextlimits
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Message posted at 06/06/2006, 21:13:02 PM by Nextlimits
Dreamweaver + Photoshop + graphic and color skills - A+

Go Live is an option

I'd rather choos 1st page 2000 - not so complex but fun

Coffee Cup - verry cute tool





But Dreamweaver is a dream



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Dkgilbey
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Message posted at 06/19/2006, 14:04:43 PM by Dkgilbey
I used Frontpage for my site....



Would love some suggestions on how I could make it better though, I'm no web designer, that's for sure...
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Sophieso
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Message posted at 06/24/2006, 18:59:45 PM by Sophieso
Webking, or anybody else, how do I communicate with Macromedia and get them to understand???



When I switched platforms I had no problem at all with Adobe in switching over. Macromedia has been a nightmare. They give me a download, but they just will NOT respond when I ask for the key to unlock the program. I finally gave up and got GoLive, and now I just completely surrendered and got iLife 06.



Adobe bought Macromedia, so why isn't their customer service the same? Grrrrr:-)


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Digimist523
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Message edited at 10/24/2006, 06:09:32 AM by Digimist523
Go Live iv not used it but i believe its quite good dreamweaver is better for css although i constantly do mine by hand so that i get good clean code!

Trouble is with editors is you must know what you want in the first place. So a good knowledge of html ect is needed to use any editor out there. Otherwise your site will not display in all browsers will not pass w3c standards act. So when starting out seriously consider just how you are going to go about things and to what standards and assessiblity do you want your site before going near these editors that just write code to put your element where it thinks it should be. Never trust them always view and develop with FireFox or ie 7 then place cracks in for ie6 later. Dont develop for ie6 your site will fall apart when viewed in a compliant browser.



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Digimist523
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Message edited at 10/24/2006, 06:10:01 AM by Digimist523
Go Live iv not used it but i belive its quite good dreamweaver is better for css although i constantly do mine by hand so that i get good clean code!

Trouble is with editors is you must know what you want in the first place. So a good knowledge of html ect is needed to use any editor out there. Otherwise your site will not display in all browsers will not pass w3c standards ect. So when starting out seriously consider just how you are going to go about things and to what standards and assiciblity do you want your site before going near these editors that just write code to put your element where it thinks it should be. Never trust them always view and develop with firefox or ie 7 then place cracks in for ie6 later. Dont develop for ie6 your site will fall apart when viewed in a compliant browser.



Mohawk
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Eferno
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Message posted at 10/24/2006, 20:18:54 PM by Eferno
My advice as a designer? Go for Studio MX...great overall package, and tons of power under the hood. The only drawback is that since Adobe took over, I can see that Fireworks will most likely not get much innovation into it because of them owning Photoshop as well, but I can deal with it.



The CSS in the different versions of Dreamweaver has increased in easiness dramatically overall. I would say that the learning curve is going to be more than some basic program like Frontpage, yet you won't be constantly throwing large objects at your LCD monitor by having to handcode an entire page (Sorry all you diehards out there...it just isn't practical.)



My two cents. :)
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Iamchana
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Message posted at 04/16/2007, 01:08:43 AM by Iamchana
Dreamweaver is the best there is, in my opinion. I used to use Homesite, but after trying Dreamweaver for a big while, it seems to be pretty powerful. Especially with automatically coding javascripts, etc.



I still enjoy hand coding and it's the most flexible option. I find that the "design" mode in dreamweaver screws up the html code. :)



Cheers!



Chana

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Plumdesign
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Message posted at 04/16/2007, 17:41:58 PM by Plumdesign
dreamweaver ,

use it and try to avoid design view as often as possible


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Susanfindlay
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Message posted at 04/16/2007, 19:52:11 PM by Susanfindlay
I built my own website using Adobe GoLive, I am a complete novice when it comes to building websites and no doubt shows to the professionals, however, it worked for me.



I didn't want to spend extra money going for Dreamweaver, when I already owned a copy of GoLive. I found it very easy to follow the tutorial and I was up and running in no time. I also found it very simple to upload it to my hosting company.



I have also found it to be very easy to update pages when needed.
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Markz
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Message edited at 04/17/2007, 12:16:38 PM by Markz
Dreamweaver is now from Adobe too and since wysiwyg-webdesigning is a fact dreamweaver is THE industry standard. I guess its only a matter of time (if not already?) that Golive will go up in Dreamweaver (formerly from Macromedia).



Greetz,

Markz

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Kris2
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Message posted at 04/24/2007, 13:40:56 PM by Kris2
If you don't want to fork out so much cash and have no idea of coding, then Netobjects fusion 7 is a good starting point.

I started on this and it gave me a good grounding and a stepping stone up to the more expensive Dreamweaver.



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