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Complexdesignpl
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Message posted at 05/21/2008, 06:11:34 AM by Complexdesignpl |
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| Originally posted by Ginesvalera: |
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| Quoted Message: Is Corel X4 good? I used Corel time ago, but now I use Illustrator. |
Hi there!
Well, I think that Corel X4 is very nice product with new, very useful features.
For example you can preview in a real time changes applied to text (multiple pages paragraph text too) just after you choose new font or it's size. Also you can mirror a paragraph text without changing it to an artistic text. There are some more changes, so I recommend to try it first anyway. Maybe you'll like it.
Colin, I can't agree with you and think that your classification is unfair.
Both, using hardware and software, depends on people's individual choices. It's impossible to determine that Mac and Illustrator are for Pros and PC and Corel are not. I personally am using Creative Suite and Corel Draw. As you stated, both have it's strenghts and weakness.
Also discussion about preferences between Illustrator and InDesign are senseless for me. First of all, because Illustrator is a vector graphic application and InDesign is intended to work with more complex DTP designs (I'm using it for typesetting books).
It's great to find your's own way working with graphic software, especially having such a great variety of it. Technical possibilities are just instruments which can realize creativity and talents of individual designer.
Cheers
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Colinbrowne
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Message posted at 05/26/2008, 17:13:04 PM by Colinbrowne |
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Yeah OK, I see your point Michal. It's just that I've never seen advertising agencies or design houses using Coreldraw, let alone PC's. All the colleges and universities that I know of teach Creative Suite on Mac. That's why I said that. Quark has faded in popularity recently for apparently not listening to their consumers, that's what I've heard anyway. I agree with finding your preference though. For me, Freehand, Adobe and Mac all the way to the bank!
Cheers,
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Complexdesignpl
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Message edited at 05/27/2008, 07:18:08 AM by Complexdesignpl |
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Hello.
Thank you, Colin, for the answer.
Well, I agree that the schools, especially Adobe Authorized Training Centres are using Macs to learn Adobe software. Macs are good for design houses, but are not the only choice. Some years ago Mac with Adobe software was treated as a synonym of professional graphic equipment. But times changes and the market changes too.
Mac is good, but PC is cheaper and not worse. PC is more popular than Mac (99,7% internet users in Poland are using PC with Windows or Unix system and only 0,3% are the users of Macs).
Also in Poland Corel Draw is probably the most popular graphic software. There are situations, when giving a work to a print shop, that you have to deliver a cdr file. It is very frustrating, when perfectly prepared pdf file proves to be incorrect. lol But it's a fact.
Maybe the main factor of that situation is that Corel software and PC hardware are cheaper than Mac and Adobe, but probably it's not the only reason.
Delivering design services it is necessary to diversify the possibilities of workflow between our studio and our clients or co-operators. This days it's easier using PC than Mac.
Finally, discussion about Macs and Adobe are for Pros and CorelDraw and PC are for home users reminds me one guy who stated that Nikon is better than Canon. But he didn't answered me why? I'm still using Canon cameras. :-)
Well, in fact this is only my own opinion and I think that every single person has it's own possibility to discover what is the most suitable for him.
Greetings
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Colinbrowne
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Message posted at 05/27/2008, 15:58:36 PM by Colinbrowne |
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Do you find CorelDraw quite memory intensive Michal? |
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Complexdesignpl
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Message posted at 05/28/2008, 07:41:29 AM by Complexdesignpl |
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Colin,
first of all, I'd like to thank you for an interesting discussion.
As I know that my English isn't so good, I just wonder if you can understand me well?
I think that CorelDraw isn't memory consuming program.
For example full Corel package (Draw, Photo-Paint, Capture and Font Navigator) installs on my HDD with 250MB.
On the other side Illustrator uses about 370MB of disk space.
The same situation I can see if I'm working with CorelDraw or Illustrator. Corel needs 50MB of RAM less than Illustrator.
Vector graphic software doesn't need as many of RAM as for example Photoshop, but it's just a horse of a different colour. |
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Colinbrowne
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Message posted at 05/29/2008, 09:44:24 AM by Colinbrowne |
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Hi Michal. I understand you perfectly, I think your English is fine. I'm glad I've been able to spark an interesting discussion. My previous experience on Coreldraw on my old PC many years ago was that it would crash every time I tried to do anything even slightly more memory intensive than simply typing or drawing a little vector graphic. At the time the PC I had was one of the better one's around so I just couldn't understand it. I used to get so frustrated.
Since I haven't used it for so long, I would like to know something about the newer versions of Corel: when you import an image does it still automatically embed it in the file or can you now choose to rather keep it as a link to the original on your hard drive?
I'm asking because I remember doing a layout that was about 8 or so pages with lots of images, it was the first time I was doing work for a client I had tried to get for so long and eventually he gave me a project to impress him with. It took about 4 or 5 days to complete and when I saved the file it ended up being something around 900MB big because of all the high res images. When I tried to re-open it again the next day it just crashed my computer again and again. There was nothing I could do. I lost out on the job and my client was so angry he never used me again and I never got paid. How could I send an invoice after that? Because of it I swore never to use Corel ever again and to this day I still haven't.
So that's my sad little story anyway, but I'm happy with the Mac + Adobe + Freehand setup I've got now. I'm not saying it's immune to crashes but it's by far the most stable I've ever had.
Cheers,
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Complexdesignpl
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Message posted at 05/30/2008, 11:43:05 AM by Complexdesignpl |
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Hi Colin.
Thanks for your explanations.
Well, it's still a CorelDraw's disadvantage that it embeds an image to the project's file and there's no possibility to paste an image as a link. This way Adobe software and QuarkXpress (if I remeber it correctly) are the winners.
Another thing - yes, it's a fact, that CorelDraw produces huge files if you'll paste some bitmap graphics into the project.
I remember how much inconvenient situation it was, when many years ago I was trying to deliver files to the print house. Saving project to many floppy disks it was a nightmare. Then with zip drives it became much easier. Now, I think there's no problem with that, but earlier it was.
I also remember another fact from the past. It was in 1999 when Pentium III was introduced. It was a big surprise for me when completely new PC with PIII 500 MHz processor (the best in that momment) failed during multiple copying and pasting a simple vector graphic. Well, it was just a hardware problem and maybe the same was with your computer.
In fact bitmap graphic consumes more memory than vector. Sometimes I can feel a little discomfort when my PSD file becomes larger than 1GB and then my PC slows down. Should I change for Mac?
Greetings
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Getupclothing
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Message posted at 05/30/2008, 15:49:20 PM by Getupclothing |
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i need help. i need someone to make a logo for me. i dont have much money but i will pay let me know before hand how much. email me at bpolak86@gmail.com. or here.
company name is get up clothing
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Colinbrowne
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Message posted at 05/31/2008, 09:34:54 AM by Colinbrowne |
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Hi Getupclothing, I would be happy to help. I'm in South Africa but I have done work for overseas clients before with the aid of email, couriers, etc. Send a brief through to me at this address and we can discuss it further:
colin@spoonfeedas.com
Complexidesignpl, this is my opinion and a lot of other creative pro's share it: when you are working in the design/creative sector, the only way to go is with a Mac. I know so many people who have made the switch and they've told me they can't believe the difference. Mac is so far superior in every way you can think of. They cost a bit more but this is because you are getting a far more advanced, superior and user-friendly machine which will last you for years and years to come if you look after it. They're not disposable like most of the PC's nowdays, and hardly ever give you hassles. Once you go Mac you never go back!
PS. I should send an invoice to Apple for what I just said! |
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