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finding and asking models

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Martinedegraaf
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Message posted at 10/30/2008, 04:33:41 AM by Martinedegraaf
Hi.



As I'm discovering this stock-photography thing more and more (and like it tremendously!) I would like to work with models more. I can practise somewhat with my eldest son who likes it much, but I would like to shoot other people and children, too. I have asked some friends and will be shooting some of their children soon but...



how are your experiences with asking them if it is ok to sell their (or their children's) images on the internet? The combination Photographs-Children-Internet do ring some alarmbells with most parents (as it should I think...). How do you take away these fears?



If friends do pose for you, do you pay them? Or do they get a percentage of the profit (if any;o) Off course if the pics are beautifull portraits, they will be pleased getting these pics, but what if I would like them to do more 'acted shoots' in wich they would not have any personal interest?



I'm a bit in the dark about this, I would very much appreciate any thoughts and experiences on the subject. Please note that I'm an amateur...



Thanks in advance!

Martine







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Rebeccaosborn
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Message posted at 10/30/2008, 05:05:04 AM by Rebeccaosborn
hi Martine,



i not at all a pro, but let me tell you how i have approached it. I have only shot my friends and family and i give them the pics, which they are more then happy with. I know one photographer that offers a free photo shoot in return for the person signing a model release? which you could do? Of course, my friends and family have been more then happy with the pics they receive after the shoot.



Anyways, that is what i have done!!



Good luck, Rebecca


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36clicks
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Message posted at 10/30/2008, 05:12:56 AM by 36clicks
Hi Martine,



Looking at your portfolio (and your name), I presume you are Dutch. A nice place to stat with models is Photoplace (http://www.photoplace.nl). A friendly site, where you can find amateur models as well as models with some experience, who are keen to model for you. I've found models via their forum on a few occasions, and my experiences are all pretty positive.



For assigned work, I do pay them, for others I negotiate the terms; usually based on prints.



Good luck,



Hugo
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Stuartkey
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Message posted at 10/30/2008, 05:24:04 AM by Stuartkey
You raise some very valid concerns, Martine, and in my experience it will really come down to each individual... namely whether they are okay with their image being available for sale worldwide.



There is probably a good way to 'sell' the idea to people, which presents it in the most favourable light, but I have yet to discover it and as a result I probably have about a 50/50 success rate on persuading people to model for DT images. Most people are happy to work with you on a 1-to-1 basis, but often the mention of internet image selling puts the brakes on!



Hugo raises a good point, there are places where you can network with amateur models who are often willing to work with you on a TFP/TFCD basis - meaning you exchange their Time For Prints or a CD of the images for their portfolio. I have also had some success via this route, although bear in mind that if no payment is being offered then you should be prepared for disappointment... I've had a few no-shows and late cancellations.



So, if anyone has developed an effective presentation of the concept, which helps to show people that selling their image on DT is safe, then let's hear it!







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Thefinalmiracle
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Message edited at 10/30/2008, 07:16:03 AM by Thefinalmiracle
This might help you to get in some unusual / unexpected models.



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Phakimata
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Message posted at 10/30/2008, 07:49:58 AM by Phakimata
I use Model Mayhem as my source for models. It's a meeting place for photographers, models, makeup artist and basically everyone in the field. You can arrange for free exchanges like the model will get the photos for his/her portfolio for free as he/she models for you for free. It works like a charm.



Cheers,

Paul.


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Godfer
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Message edited at 10/30/2008, 11:41:00 AM by Godfer
All of my models are family and friends and I always make sure that they realize that I have no control over where the images are used. If they have any doubts

at all about how they would react to misuse of images then I don't use them. I point out that misuse is unusual but possible.

I don't pay my models but will always give them copies of the photos, do special photos for them and often treat the kids to ice creams, etc or let them keep the clothes if I bought them.

Mandy
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Cameo
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Message posted at 10/30/2008, 17:12:59 PM by Cameo
Just another idea... maybe as a start, try to meet up with some DT photographers near you and you could model for each other....

Hmm I'd like to do that... anyone in Adelaide interested?

Cheers. Cameo.
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Moonb007
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Message posted at 10/30/2008, 20:54:39 PM by Moonb007
FYI, I think this is a great thread...I can't really say much sense I don't really have many models. But it is a very good topic.
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Sleiselei
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Message posted at 10/31/2008, 03:08:51 AM by Sleiselei

Originally posted by Cameo:
Quoted Message: Just another idea... maybe as a start, try to meet up with some DT photographers near you and you could model for each other....

Hmm I'd like to do that... anyone in Adelaide interested?

Cheers. Cameo.


A very good proposal,Cameo.

I live in Beijing, not far from you, less than half of the Earth. :)

slei
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Ladykassie
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Message posted at 10/31/2008, 04:21:50 AM by Ladykassie

Originally posted by Phakimata:
Quoted Message: I use Model Mayhem as my source for models. It's a meeting place for photographers, models, makeup artist and basically everyone in the field. You can arrange for free exchanges like the model will get the photos for his/her portfolio for free as he/she models for you for free. It works like a charm.



Cheers,

Paul.




Thanks for the tip.. I signed up..



Heck.. if anyone lives in my area.. I will model for them.. ;0)
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Jdfoster
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Message posted at 02/01/2013, 21:48:33 PM by Jdfoster
If you need a Big Fat guy then count me in! lol :)


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