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Pro RBG wash out look

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Pigletbef
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Message posted at 02/21/2009, 14:59:27 PM by Pigletbef
I hope this is not too silly a question. This really shows that I am a rookie.

When checking some of my images here, I notice that some look washed out. I know that Pro RGB can look washed out on some monitors. And when I test my images before submitting I have programs that show the true color representation.

But when I look at other members images, they look more vibrant. Even on differnt monitors I have noticed this.

Does anyone else see this with their work or others?

Thanks in advance. -Beth

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Maigi
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Message posted at 02/21/2009, 15:57:59 PM by Maigi
Hi Beth! Maybe you would like to try to save you files as sRGB?

Here's a great article, explaining why sRGB: Getting Great Prints: sRGB vs Adobe 98
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Pigletbef
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Message posted at 02/21/2009, 16:25:30 PM by Pigletbef
Thank you Maigi. Funny.... I had just read that artical a few hours ago. It is a good one. I thank you for the suggestion.

I actually do save in both sRGB and Pro RBG. I test my images before presenting in many programs showing both my sRBG and Pro RBG.

My queston is not actually about printing. It is vieiwing my images on Dreamstime that I notice my colors are not as vibrant as some other members' images.

I was wondering if others see this too.

I am hoping that it is just because my monitors don't represent Pro RGB correctly. If this is the case, then why do I see other member's images looking vibrant and more colorful?

I may not be expressing myself correctly. And I wasn't sure which forum to post this question in.

Thanks -Beth
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Maigi
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Message posted at 02/21/2009, 16:57:58 PM by Maigi
It's a great article indeed. :)

If yous save your photos both sRGB and Pro RBG, do you upload only sRGB on DT?

sRGB should look good online, Pro RBG may not.

It's a little bit hard to comment on your images, because I have no idea how they should look like. If you compare your portfolio with others, then you should see the difference, if there is any.

Sometimes photographers add a little bit more saturation, to have their images look better.

Maybe that's help a little.

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Pigletbef
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Message posted at 02/21/2009, 18:09:16 PM by Pigletbef
Thanks .. it is always helpful. I appreciate the comments.

I only upload Pro RGB. I didn't think sRBG was accepted.

When I compare to other's portfolios, that is where I notice that mine look less colorful. But the images that I save in sRGB on my computer files look very rich and colorful. My Images on my DT portfolio are less colorful and I have attributed that to being Pro RGB and my monitor is not claibrated for it.

But ....For instance when I look at your portfolio, the images look colorful.... even though they are Pro RGB. Are they Pro RBG?

Which by the way your work is wonderful.

-Beth

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Suiphotos
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Message posted at 02/22/2009, 01:37:54 AM by Suiphotos
Thanks for the link, Maigi. Now I understand why my picture was washed out a little bit. I saved in AdobeRGB and it looked okay when I uploaded and viewed in DT with my Mac laptop. But when I looked again with my PC, it washed out.



My question is rather hypothetical. Do buyers get interested to download an image by the quality of the color? I might (if I were a buyer) choose to download a vibrant colored image rather than a washed one.



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Maigi
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Message posted at 02/22/2009, 08:37:17 AM by Maigi

Originally posted by Pigletbef:
Quoted Message: ... even though they are Pro RGB. Are they Pro RBG?


No, they are not. They are sRGB.

Thanks for your good words, Beth. I like strong colors and a little bit stronger saturation. But sometimes I tend to overdo it, so I'm trying to learn how to keep balance.

I don't know which is better for designers, but sRGB files look better in web browsers. And a part of downloaded files will be used online again, so sRGB seems to be better for stock images.



Avan, since buyers select among thumbnail images, they might prefer images with better color, cause they just pop out. Just a guess.
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Lightart
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Message posted at 02/22/2009, 12:01:34 PM by Lightart

Originally posted by Pigletbef:
Quoted Message: ...I only upload Pro RGB. I didn't think sRBG was accepted.

When I compare to other's portfolios, that is where I notice that mine look less colorful.




Problem with uploading ProRGB is that it uses a very large color gamut or range that is not always reproducible on all monitors. sRGB is the standard for web presentation. For print however a wider gamut is often preferable. If you work in ProRGB and then 'convert to sRGB profile' before saving your file as a jpeg for DT, you will end up with a brighter more vibrant image.
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Pigletbef
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Message posted at 02/22/2009, 22:56:51 PM by Pigletbef
Thank you both for the great information.
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