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Cigarette with DOF

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Fatherofgod
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Message posted at 12/06/2010, 14:19:43 PM by Fatherofgod
I purchase photos here because I need the quality and specificity of certain photos because I do photo manipulation scenes for personal artwork.



What I need a macro type shot of a cigarette without the normal macro shot blurring from DOF. I need a photo like this: http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-cigarette-image6735120



-The only problem with that photo is the blurring, and I'd like to have the photo closer. I know this is a difficult shot but I do know a few photographers who say its definitely possible with a view camera or tilt shift lens. I believe I've seen a few cigar photos that are like what I am looking for but I need a cigarette.



I'd need the resolution to be as big as possible. I'd like at least 12mp or more.



The other possibility is taking multiple shots at different focus point and then combining them.


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Fultonsphoto
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Message posted at 12/06/2010, 22:01:07 PM by Fultonsphoto
Hi, can you give us an example of one of the cigar shots that is similar so that we can get more of an idea what it is you need? Also, would you like the hand in the shot or without it?



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Gilen
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Message edited at 12/06/2010, 23:09:33 PM by Gilen
No hand needed. I can't find the photo I had found before but this is somewhat close.

http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photography-cuban-cigar--image5826242

I'm guessing you'd want to use it to figure out what lens, camera, and settings were used, and replicate it with a cigarette. The only way I think its possible is with a tilt shift lens, view camera, or multiple photos at different focus points.



-oo and sorry im logged in on my other account.


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Chimeandsense
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Message posted at 12/07/2010, 03:46:22 AM by Chimeandsense
   Last cigarette   



Like this but without the lighter


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Gilen
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Message posted at 12/07/2010, 11:08:15 AM by Gilen
^ Yes and much closer, and more of an overhead angle. This isn't suppose to be just a simple macro shot. It needs to be a combination of shots at different focus points of the cigarette that can be combined into one shot that has mostly full focus of the cigarette. But the shot you have now...the focus throughout the cigarette might be acceptable..I'd prefer a little more.

And unless you have a view camera or a tilt shift lens I don't see any other way of doing this even though I am a pretty inexperienced photographer myself with just a 5000D.


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Message posted at 12/07/2010, 11:33:06 AM by Warrenpricephotography
Might work with HDR type fusion, focusing on different areas and combining the images.



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Martinedegraaf
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Message posted at 12/07/2010, 11:51:20 AM by Martinedegraaf

Originally posted by Warrenpricephotography:
Quoted Message: Might work with HDR type fusion, focusing on different areas and combining the images.




That is called focus-stacking, it is the same principle.
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Message posted at 12/07/2010, 13:17:13 PM by Warrenpricephotography
I think that is what I meant ... focus-stacking. Wasn't something like this added to the latest release of Photoshop Elements?



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Gilen
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Message posted at 12/07/2010, 14:40:16 PM by Gilen
Yup that's the solution I described. And that would work for me.


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Heywoody
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Message posted at 12/09/2010, 11:28:08 AM by Heywoody
I've made a 3d model that looks reasonably realistic - currently rendering@ 3000 x 40000. The benefit is infinite DOF.
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Gilen
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Message posted at 12/09/2010, 11:44:10 AM by Gilen

Originally posted by Heywoody:
Quoted Message: I`ve made a 3d model that looks reasonably realistic - currently rendering@ 3000 x 40000. The benefit is infinite DOF.




If it looks pretty photo realistic ill use it for sure.


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Heywoody
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Message posted at 12/09/2010, 16:37:06 PM by Heywoody
OK - that is submitted awaiting review - I'll post here if / when approved.
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Gilen
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Message posted at 12/09/2010, 18:52:57 PM by Gilen
I just hope you didn't upload too small. I need it to be at least 4000x3000 equivalent in size.


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Heywoody
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Message edited at 12/10/2010, 06:24:34 AM by Heywoody
   Filter tip cigarette   



It's 3000 X 4000 - IF the model is ok, any variation on angle, lighting or if you want isolated is no problem
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Gilen
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Message edited at 12/11/2010, 18:58:23 PM by Gilen
I think that would work... the position needs to be like this photo.

http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-cigarette-image6735120

See how you can see part of the cigarette at the bottom?



And please get a higher resolution if possible. Like 5000x7000 if possible. Would be great.


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Heywoody
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Message posted at 12/12/2010, 15:48:05 PM by Heywoody
I've done another more straight on and slightly above looking down, 5000 pixels on the short side in 3 X 4 format. DT will offer an upsized tiff if it needs to be bigger than that.
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Heywoody
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Message posted at 12/14/2010, 08:03:25 AM by Heywoody
   3D cigarette macro   



I'm afraid from this angle and resolution it looks more artificial but if it's of use...
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Gilen
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Message posted at 12/14/2010, 22:22:36 PM by Gilen
That works well. Just the angle needs to be a little more overhead and a little bit closer and then ill purchase it at maximum resolution.


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Heywoody
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Message posted at 12/15/2010, 17:55:07 PM by Heywoody
Ok - can do
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Heywoody
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Message posted at 12/17/2010, 04:48:37 AM by Heywoody
   3D cigarette macro   
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