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New to creating vectors...Inkscape question

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Riaanne
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Message posted at 03/27/2011, 15:16:40 PM by Riaanne
Hi! I've recently downloaded Inkscape because I want to take a shot at creating vectors, but I have a question to find an answer to before I upload my first illustration: can I sell something that I made in Inkscape using their "Create Squares and Rectangles" or "Create Polygons and Stars" tools? Or do I have to draw all of my shapes from scratch? I saw something posted on another message board that has made me wonder about this, in which case, I would like to know before I submit something made like this. Thx!
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Nasir1164
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Message edited at 03/27/2011, 21:19:09 PM by Nasir1164
You can use Inkscape each and every tool (including Create Squares and rectangles or create polygons etc for creating your illustrations. Illustrator, corel draw and all others vectors program have these basic shape creation tool and they are available for vector artists to be use for creating something new from them. For eg in following image cloud, eye, flowers and some other elements are created using circle shape.

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Riaanne
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Message posted at 03/27/2011, 21:53:51 PM by Riaanne
Ok, great! I'm glad to know I didn't just waste my time. :) Yay! Sometimes this copyright stuff can really get confusing. Thanks for clearing it up for me!
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Roberto1977
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Message posted at 03/29/2011, 08:00:47 AM by Roberto1977 - member is an admin
I use only Inkscape and I love it. Waiting for your illustrations... :-)

Good work!
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/07/2011, 16:01:29 PM by Gcpics
I too have recently downloaded inkscape to give the vector side of life a try.



Anyone got a sort of an "inkscape workflow" they could post, cos I really just don't know where to begin.



My progress so far....



1.Opening inkscape...yes :0)



2.Creating shapes and basics pictures.....yes, but still watching tutorials online.



3.Saving files for uploading....NOPE !!...I'm totally lost.

When I try to save as EPS the thumbnail in my folder shows Paint Shop Pro 7!

What size 'canvas' should I use?

What size files should I be looking at to upload?



Thanks in advance, G.



P.S. Can't I just upload a vector as a jpeg file? (that's probably a daft question or submitting vectors would be way too easy)











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Roberto1977
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Message edited at 06/08/2011, 02:54:32 AM by Roberto1977 - member is an admin
Hello!



My Inkscape workflow is:

1) Open Inkscape and draw a white rectangle with the dimension (for example) 5000x5000 pixels. This (5000pixel x 5000 pixel = 25 000 000 pixel = 25megapixel [MP]) will be the final dimension of my illustration (you can change it whenever you want though).

2) Select the rectangle and set it as canvas.

3) Draw the illustration.

4) Save it as svg and eps. Do not use blurs or transparencies if you want to upload also the additional (Eps) format.

5) Close Inkscape and open Gimp (free software).

6) Open the SVG file of Inkscape with Gimp (I use a resolution of 300 pixels) and save it as PNG and then as JPG.

7) Upload the JPG and then (if you want) also the EPS format.



Bye, Rob.
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/08/2011, 04:16:59 AM by Gcpics
Hey Rob,



many thanks for the info....straight forward and simple...excellent!!



If only I'd come here yesterday straight away instead of wasting about 3 hours scouring the web and still coming up empty handed.



Well I suppose it's back to the online tutorials and get practicing.



Thanks very much, Grant.







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Roberto1977
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Message posted at 06/08/2011, 12:55:59 PM by Roberto1977 - member is an admin
You're welcome, Grant.



Don't hesitate to ask. If I can I'm happy to help you.



Bye, Rob.
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/09/2011, 08:49:10 AM by Gcpics
Hi Rob,



Ok I've managed to get the canvas set up and had a go at saving some basic shapes as SVG files and then doing the GIMP things to end up with a JPEG 5000x5000.



Next thing is, when I save the image as EPS there are a number of option boxes in the window. I've read that I should save as Postscript Level 2, but what other boxes should I be ticking?



1. Convert Texts to Paths YES/NO?

2. EPS+LaTex: omit texts in EPS and create LaTex File YES/NO?

3. Rasterize Filter Effects YES/NO?

4. Resolution for Rasterization (300?dpi?)

5. Export Area is Page YES/NO?

6. Export Area is Page YES/NO?



Limit export to the object with ID



As always thanks in advance, Grant



.....I'm now going to try an sort out the email alert option here that should be letting me know when this thread gets a reply.

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Roberto1977
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Message edited at 06/09/2011, 12:14:10 PM by Roberto1977 - member is an admin
Hello Grant!



It depends from the version you have installed (now I'm using Inkscape 0.46 and I see only 3 lines when I save a file as Eps). Anyway:



1. YES. If you don't convert text in paths you can have aliasing problems (I don't know how I can explain you what are aliasing and antialiasing: search it with wikipedia, for example, to understand).

2. I think NO, but I don't see this line.

3. NO. If you raster something, you have a raster :-), not a vector image.

4. I don't see this line, but 300dpi should be correct.

5. YES. If you initially set the page (see my previous post, point 2), it's correct.

6 = 5



Finally, to have a AI8 compatible EPS open your EPS file into a text editing program (Word for example) and look at the top line of text. Your EPS file must read '3.0' or lower ('3.1' means the file is not AI8 compatible).



Bye, Rob.
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/09/2011, 13:57:18 PM by Gcpics
Hi Rob,



...OK I've checked & unchecked the boxes you suggested (BTW I'm running Inkscape 0.48) and when I go to the folder where I've saved my EPS file I see an icon with the GIMP face on it along with the file name and 'Paint Shop Pro7 Image'.....I don't even have paint shop pro 7, at least i don't think so.



I opened the file with word pad and this is the first line from the text



%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0



.....so I take it this is fine for AI8. Is this then the EPS file that I have to upload along with the finished JPEG file?



In my last post I noticed I have repeated options 5 & 6 one of them should read

'Export Area is Drawing'. I had both ticked when saving the above mentioned as an EPS file...I don't know if this has any effect on the finished product.



Thank you very much for your time, I can see that you are a wealth of knowledge on this subject.



Cheers, Grant.



P.S. Why do I keep thinking of Bob Marley when I see the word 'Raster' mentioned :0)
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Roberto1977
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Message edited at 06/09/2011, 14:33:32 PM by Roberto1977 - member is an admin
Hello Grant!



If you export the page you will have an EPS file with everything is included in the page (in the example above, the 5000x5000 pixels page). If you export the drawing you will have an EPS with everything (page and everything that is drawn off the page). The best thing is to select "Export Area is Page" so if you accidentally draw a line off the page, that line will not be included in your EPS file.



%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 --> OK!



Icon: an EPS file could be opened with different softwares (Photoshop, Illustrator, Gimp, etc.). It's not important the icon (it is associated with the software that you have/use for it). No problem.



Try to upload it. Anyway a refusal (of the additional format) will not affect your A.R.



P.S.: when I started to draw some illustrations 4 years ago, I didn't know that there was a software called Inkscape: for me raster & vector were unknown words...



Bye, Rob.

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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/09/2011, 15:06:48 PM by Gcpics
Rob....you're a star!



Thanks for the info (so far) :0)



It's just what I needed to get started and hopefully if anyone else is starting out in vectors they come across this thread.



Many thanks Rob, Grant.



PS You've got some fantastic images (and sales!) and that after 4 years...I'm very impressed.
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/12/2011, 05:45:31 AM by Gcpics
Hi Rob....yes me again!



Ok here goes....3 questions that I hope don't take up too much of your time.



Question A

I've done some vectors (not for uploading yet!) just as practice runs but when opening the SVG to GIMP there is some information & some options to be ticked (No.6 & 7) in the window named 'Render Scalable Vector Graphics'.



1.Width 5000 (that I understand)

2.Height 5000 (that I understand)

3.X Ratio is 1.000 (I take it that is correct)

4.Y Ratio is 1.000 (I take it that is correct)

5.Resolution 300.000 (that is correct)

6.Import Paths YES/NO?

7.Merge Import Paths YES/NO?



Question B

1. When I open the SVG in GIMP I have a transparent background.....can I simply remove Alpha Channel in GIMP before saving as PNG?



I've tried setting background colour to white in Inkscape Document Properties/preferences but I always have an Alpha Channel in GIMP.



I've also tried bucket filling the background white in inkscape but get the message saying something about closed borders????



Question C



When saving as PNG in GIMP there are some boxes to be ticked

1.Inter lacency (Adam7) YES/NO?

2.Save Background Colour YES/NO?

3.Save Gamma YES/NO?

4.Save Layer Offset YES/NO?

5.Save Resolution YES/NO?

6.Save Creation Time YES/NO?



Many thanks as always, Grant.
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Roberto1977
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Message edited at 06/12/2011, 06:27:21 AM by Roberto1977 - member is an admin
Hello Grant!



A) 1/5: ok.

6-7: No/no.



B) If you draw a white rectangle/square as a background in your SVG file, you will not have any problem.

But about this question, I forgot to tell you that when you select your square (5000x5000pixels) and set it as your canvas you must set the color background (maybe the problem is here). So... Properties of the document (Shift+Ctrl+D) --> Page (first tab) --> At the top of there's a line with "Background". Click on the colour and set is as white (255, 255, 255, 255). Does it works?



C) I tick (Yes) only numbers 2 (background colour), 5 (resolution) and 6 (creation time).



Bye, Rob.
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/12/2011, 07:25:27 AM by Gcpics
Hi Rob,



it's a good job I have a very short haircut cos I wouldn't have much hair left if I could get a grip of it.



I think I know what my problem is......I'm drawing on what I think is my canvas but it's not really.



When I open inkscape I have what looks like a sheet of A4 paper in the middle of the screen.



I go to document properties and change the sizes to 5000 x5000 and up comes the larger square.



When I try to set the colour to white I notice that the 5k x 5k square & the background both change colour at the same time when I'm srolling around the colour wheel. I've also done the 255 thing but no luck everything changes.



What am I doing wrong??...I don't think I'm actually setting up my canvas properly.



Thanks, Grant.



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Roberto1977
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Message posted at 06/12/2011, 07:56:08 AM by Roberto1977 - member is an admin
Ok. Now I understand.



When you open Inkscape, draw a white square of (example) 5000x5000 pixels. No rounded border and no contour. Now select the square and press Shift+Ctrl+D (Properties of the document). In the middle of the tab "page" you can see the dimension of the current page (A4 by default). Click on the botton "Adapt the page to the selection" (I'm translating it from italian, I use the italian version). Done.



Now, everything you will draw in the page will be part of your illustration. Is it ok?



Bye, Rob.
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/12/2011, 08:10:53 AM by Gcpics
BINGO!



It worked and I noticed I had to lock the white rectangle from selection. Now everything is saving with white background into GIMP.



Thank you so much for your time.



Enjoy the rest of your weekend.



Grant.
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Debspoons
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Message posted at 06/13/2011, 17:13:57 PM by Debspoons
Thanks for all the information, I too downloaded inkscape and paint.net..I did not download gimp, so I will go get it.

I just got this so, I still need to watch the online tutorials. Good luck Gcpics and thanks Roberto1977 for taking the time to help beginers. Thank you Thank you
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Gcpics
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Message posted at 06/14/2011, 01:02:12 AM by Gcpics
Hi,



good luck to you too.



I don't know if you've been here, but this is a great site for video tutorials on inkscape.



http://www.learndigitaldesign.com/videos.php



There's also video tutorials on GIMP which I haven't watched yet because I know the basics from using it for my photo editing, but I will get around to watching them as I bet there is a whole lot more cool things to be done on GIMP.



Here's another good link I found. It's a basic drawing but the guy shows lots of different basic techniques to be used in inkscape during the video and he also explains what he's doing.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ-ECm2lK50&feature=related



And another big thanks to Rob for helping others to get started.



Grant.



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