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Canon 7D or 5D

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Afagundes
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 08:07:04 AM by Afagundes
Hi folks,

I have a canon 50d and three lenses, a 10-22 APS, a 24-105 and a 70-300

I am upgrading the body in June when I will be in new York, I am just wondering about two possibilities, let me see if you can help me on my decision:

1) Canon 7d- this would give me a bit more resolution, less noise and an internal wireless flash transmitter (so I won't need to carry the transmitter anymore), and video recording (that I don't care much about) and a quite impressive zoom range (17 to 480 35mm equivalent), but I need to carry 3 lenses and change them very often, specially between the 10-22 and the 24-105, I am having quite often dust spots on my 50 d sensor because of that.



2) Canon 5D- Even more resolution, but I would need to trade my 10-22, so I would end up with a smaller zoom range, but quite effective (24 to 300mm), even less noise, and I wouldn't carry 3 lense, only two, I don't know if the 5d has an internal flash transmitter.

In the future, if I wanted to have the wide angle, I would need to spend a fortune on a 17mm lens.



So, what is your opinion?
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Nicku
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 08:32:57 AM by Nicku
In my opinion are two possibilities:



1. keep the 50D and buy a new high quality L lens that suits you best.... the 7D is a excellent camera but if you are using high quality lens the results will be very good with 50D... i looked in your incredible portfolio, ... for stock the built in transmitter of 7D will have very limited use.





2.If you are looking for more resolution and excellent image quality than definitely 5D. sell your 10-22 and buy a 17-40 f/4 L along with your other lenses ( i use 17-40 L for more than 3 years, incredible image quality and durability)...



P.S. I had the same same dilemma upgrading from my old 40D (excellent image quality but 10MP for today stock standard is a little bit less). i chose the 7D.... But if i was in your situation ( upgrading from 50D) i definitely chose the 5D.



all the best,

Nicku

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Afagundes
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Message edited at 04/09/2011, 10:15:42 AM by Afagundes
Nicku, its a budget problem, if I could buy the 5d and a 17-40 this would be my decision, but I was thinking of exchanging the 50d and the 10-22 for the 5d, for this I would spend more or less the same as exchanging the 50d for the 7d, I would end up with a better full frame body, but less zoom range.



By the way my 24-105 is an L.



Thanks for your comment on my portfolio.



On the other hand I noticed the 50d resolution is almost at the limit of diffraction, it shows up quite bad with apertures smaller than f11, in this case I am decreasing the resolution when uploading, so the bigger resolution of the 7D might not help much, right?
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Nicku
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 10:38:00 AM by Nicku
One other possibility is to sell the 50D and 70-300 lens and buy the 7D and 70-200 f4 L and maybe the 1.4 extender.... 7D need high quality glass in order to get the maximum of his 18MP sensor. I know 24-105 is an L i worked with that lens... its so many possibilities... the only think is the budget :( :(
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Lostarts
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 15:09:16 PM by Lostarts
Hi,



For the price of 1 5D you could probably buy 2 7Ds and keep your most used lenses on them. That would solve the dust problem.



I always found the trade off between carrying 2 body/lens combinations allowing faster switching in quick situations better than carrying 1 body and fumbling around switching lenses. But, to each his own.



I shoot the 5D with the 24-70mm 2.8L lens. The sharpness of that lens along with the resolution of the 5D gives me quality I've only previously dreamed about ... it's to die for!

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Afagundes
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 16:51:46 PM by Afagundes
Hi Lotsarts, I mainly take travel images so to carry two bodies is not an option I want to carry less weight, not more weight, hehe...

Deep in my soul I think the 5d would give me an extra in the low light without a tripod and the advantage of taking most of my pictures with one lens, the fantastic 24-105L, but I know I will miss the wide angle and eventually invest on the 17-40, just not right now.

On the other hand seems like the upgrade from the 50d to the 7d won't add much, would you do it?
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Lostarts
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 17:25:40 PM by Lostarts
I considered the 7D but knew I'd always lust for the 5D. So I got it and now I never think of the 7D.
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Tamarabauer
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 18:21:51 PM by Tamarabauer - member is an admin
I think it depends mostly on what you want out of your camera. If it's full frame and image quality, go for the 5D. On the other hand, the 7D has newer technology and a truly awesome focus system and yes, the remote wireless flash does come in very handy, I've used it for stock. The 7D will be quite a leap forward from your 50D.
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 19:51:08 PM by Afagundes
Hum, ok, so it seems like a good idea to go for the 5D, quality is my top priority.
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Tamarabauer
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 21:18:19 PM by Tamarabauer - member is an admin
Yep, then go for the 5D. The quality will knock your socks off :)
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Bradcalkins
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 21:31:14 PM by Bradcalkins
How about the 60D and the 17-55mm f/2.8 ? I have a 7D and I'm not sure what features it offers over the 60D that are useful for landscape/travel photography. The 5D is probably better for your purposes, especially if you find the 24-105 not wide enough. I have that lens as well, but rarely go to the 24mm end.



A faster f2.8 lens will gain you a stop of ISO and help with noise. I'm not sure that you'll see much in the way of resolution increase from 15-18 MP...
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 21:42:59 PM by Afagundes
I like the magnesium case of the 50d and the protection for the rain, I think the 7d has the same type of protection and the same goes for the 5d, the 60d is pretty much plastic, in this case I would keep my 50d instead of upgrading to the 60d.



A 2.8 lenses would be nice as you said, but maybe I would be better served with my 24-105 and the 5d, I don't take much portraits so usually I need more to close the lens than have them wide open, so its more important to have less noise to be able to increase the iso with low light or when I can't use a tripod.
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Bradcalkins
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Message posted at 04/09/2011, 23:35:18 PM by Bradcalkins
Sounds like you're on your way to the 5D :)
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Nicku
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Message posted at 04/10/2011, 03:12:00 AM by Nicku
Yap, 5D it is..... :)
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Lostarts
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Message posted at 04/10/2011, 10:51:10 AM by Lostarts
The 5D is extraordinary! And here's a little thing that I get a kick out of ... It makes a shutter sound just like a 6x7 Pentax. Ah, the good old days! Anyone remember that cam?



Art
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Archangel72
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Message posted at 04/10/2011, 14:04:25 PM by Archangel72


Wait for 5D Mark III, it's release is "just around the corner"...



It would be a shame to buy older body (5DMark II is great never the less) when in few months, new improved model will offer you supreme quality with a cost of few extra $$$ more, but, that's the prize for all good things in life.

If money is the problem (and usually is) than my choice and advice would be 5dMarkII (full frame with rich support of high quality lenses).

Go PRO, don't look back! Wait if you have to, your patience will pay off unquestionably.

I will make the same move myself pretty soon (hopefully).

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Afagundes
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Message posted at 04/10/2011, 17:37:19 PM by Afagundes
I will be in New York by the end of June, if they have launched the 5d III, than it would be great, otherwise, I will have to choose what is best for me at that moment, in Brazil the prices are simply impossible for photographic equipment.
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Lostarts
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Message posted at 04/12/2011, 08:21:32 AM by Lostarts
You might consider the trade off between the 5D MII and 5D MIII. While the cost of the 5D might go down with the release of the MIII, would the additional features of the MIII suit your needs at that extra cost?



Previously in this thread you mentioned two things: you own a 24-105 and you don't do many portraits. the 105 end of things is a great focal length IMHO for portraits. Coupled with the MII or MIII you would get outstanding portraits.



Will you be anywhere near NH or MA after NY?



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Afagundes
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Message posted at 04/12/2011, 18:38:22 PM by Afagundes
Nope, I will be in New York for four days, than I will travel to Europe, visit some friends in France and England, than back to Brazil.
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Py2000
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Message posted at 06/19/2011, 08:27:11 AM by Py2000
@Afagundes, have you decided which one to get yet?
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