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a category for film

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Debramillet
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 10:14:06 AM by Debramillet
Hi everyone! With the new category for mobile phone shots I would like to suggest a category dedicated to film and reversal. I know dt accepts them now but as time goes by I think film is going to be more appreciated and sought after, and a seperate category would make it easier seperate them from digital. have a great weekend all


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Bobbrooky
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 10:16:59 AM by Bobbrooky
This is a great idea Debra, I wholeheartedly agree, thanks.
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Debramillet
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 10:53:08 AM by Debramillet
Thanks Bob :) Another reason I think of this is I can only imagine how many contributors out there have loads of files of film and slide that they probably dont like to work on very often as it takes hours and hours ( at least to me it does) to lessen the grain,ect., so maybe they dont bother when theres probably alot of beautiful, sellable shots in there


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Bogdanzagan
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 11:03:44 AM by Bogdanzagan
Great idea... but how can you really separate them? I always can apply an effect that will render my digital photograph into a film one. I can even specify the type of film, ISO etc.
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Debramillet
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Message edited at 11/25/2012, 11:50:41 AM by Debramillet
Maybe like a film and film style or something. Kinda like the mobile assignment also accepts non-mobile but with the mobile-look. Im not sure, you make a good point


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Red
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Message edited at 11/25/2012, 13:44:53 PM by Red
I believe that buyers are looking for images that suit their needs and don't really care if they were shot on a specific camera, were generated from film scans or taken with a mobile phone. I doubt that they even look at the exif data to see what camera took the photo they chose. If they find an image that they want and want to enhance it to simulate a film look that is very easy these days with all the filters out there.

That being said, the new Mobile category is a fast place for buyers to look if they need a photo with the mobile phone "style" that is all over these days - shots that look like they were taken at the moment, not planned, instantaneous, and shots with mobile phone filters applied. Those images are very popular. Whether you're using a mobile phone or a film scan or a regular camera these shots have a very specific feel. If you look at the images in the Assignments contest you will see that many were taken with regular cameras and have had filters applied to give them a mobile phone "look" but are still put in the Abstract>Mobile category. If you click on the Tools tab of those images you can see what camera or phone they were shot with (in most cases) and many in the Assignments contest were not shot with phones.

If you have some scans that fall into this "shoot from the hip" genre, upload them and choose the mobile category. You might even want to add more grain or apply a special effect. Just put a note in the comments field saying that is what you are trying to achieve with your scan.

As for film scans of photos that are straight on "regular" photos, buyers looking for many of the subjects in these scans will probably want a clean, noiseless image. I don't believe that many buyers are searching for a photo with a film look because, again, they can apply those types of filters to any image easily these days. I have a ton of negatives and slides that might be good stock but it is too much work to convert them to digital. I have done that in the past only to realize that they were not as good as I thought they were when I examined them on my screen at 100%.


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Debramillet
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 21:13:48 PM by Debramillet
Red, true, excellent points, but imho with all the categories there are one for film/reversal would be an added aspect to the diversity of dt. Buyers might not necessarily care about the medium of image they need but it possibly would attract entusiasts who could become buyers


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Debramillet
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 21:17:44 PM by Debramillet
[quote]Red, true, excellent points, but imho with all the categories there are one for film/reversal would be an added aspect to the diversity of dt. Buyers might not necessarily care about the medium of image they need but it pos I have a ton of negatives and slides that might be good stock but it is too much work to convert them to digital. I have done that in the past only to realize that they were not as good as I thought they were when I examined them on my screen at 100%sibly would attract entusiasts who could become buyers[/quote Another reason I would like to see a seperate category.


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Debramillet
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 21:34:23 PM by Debramillet
Sorry Everyone, was trying to quote part of what Red said but messed it up, so ignore the comment above this its backwards and sideways.
Reds statement on them not being good enough at 100% is another reason there should be a seperate category. Film and slides rarely, if ever, can compete with digital but with a category for it alone the grain, color,ect would be more tolerated and I do believe they would generate sales


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Mudplucker
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 23:31:59 PM by Mudplucker
The world's "Top Stock Photographer" is already shooting 5-15 second clips and having them used on tv commercials, etc.... do some research and you'll see what can sell if you have the equipment and the models available. I'm sure they might not all require models but a lot of them will i think.
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Red
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Message posted at 11/25/2012, 23:53:02 PM by Red
Mudplucker, Debra isn't talking about "film" in the sense of video, but old-time film negatives from still cameras. Selling video clips on DT is an entirely different story.


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Mudplucker
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Message posted at 11/27/2012, 00:47:37 AM by Mudplucker
ohhhhh, i have somewhere a lot of negatives from the 80's when I lived in Germany, mostly a lot of F4 Phantom fighter jet closeups and take-offs and stuff from the flightline. I wouldn't even know exactly where they are amongst our closets full of photos though.... and lately i haven't even had time to do any photo taking at all, which at least means I'm working and keeping the bills paid :)
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Paulcowan
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Message posted at 11/29/2012, 19:17:33 PM by Paulcowan
Some of my best-selling files were shot on medium format film (though not necessarily here, given the rejection problems). Maybe they have a "look" to them that people like, And it's not all about the emulsion, either; shooting with a 1960s lens adds something. And, of course, the DoF is different.
That said, there is a difference between shooting in medium format and 35mm and most amateur shots from the old days wouldn't stand enlargement much beyond enprint size because most people did not have the necessary skills to get the best from the equipment they had.
If DT were to get serious about film, then it shouldn't be looking for grain to be blurred out to mimic poor quality digital. Grain contains information, it isn't just a defect, and blurring (oh, I mean "grain reduction") reduces the detail in the file.
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