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canon new 18-135mm EF-S IS STM lens?

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Drago76
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Message posted at 01/11/2013, 03:33:09 AM by Drago76
Hello!
Now i try to "work" with eos 350d with kit 18-55 IS lens. Thinking about upgrade to 650d with new subj lens, but cannot find info, how it works in comparison with 18-55 (IS) kit one - it is better in all range, or not in all cases and so on.
Epecially interested in microstocks area - picture quality, CA on wide end and open diaphragme and so on.
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Astormfr
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Message posted at 01/11/2013, 06:13:06 AM by Astormfr
I think that they are equivalent in term of quality.

Here is a useful link I think:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-Lens-Reviews.aspx

If you really want to improve quality, go with the Canon 17-55 IS or a Tamron 17-50 (cheaper solution)
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Lostarts
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Message posted at 01/11/2013, 08:43:06 AM by Lostarts
You might also research Sigma lenses. I've owned Tamron and the quality isn't as good as Sigma in my experiences.
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 01/11/2013, 09:19:25 AM by Afagundes
Drago76, my wife has a T3 with your lenses, its a very nice lens, for what I´ve seen, but the range is too limited for her, so I researched and convinced her to upgrade to a 18-135 STM.
For what I researched its way better than the older version of the 18-135 (which is not STM), which had a lot of distortion.
According to the reviews I read, it presented some distortion near the 18mm range, but this is something you can fix in your software (this fix will decrease a bit of the sharpness though).
I noticed the 18-55 has a lot of CA in harsh contrast conditions, (but very few in normal conditions) I don´t expect this new lens to be any different, not worse, not better.
In terms of overall quality, I suspect the 18-55 is probably better than the 18-135, the range is too different and there is always a compromise on those big zooms, but I don´t think its quite noticeable, at least on hers T3 that has only 10Mpixels resolution.
If you want to see a diference in the lens, than you would need to go to an L grade, the 17-40 and/or a 24-105.
Yes, I´ve heard the 17-55 is a wonderful lens as well, but prone to acumulate dust, if that´s not a problem to you, you could give it a try.

So, resuming:
From the 18-55 to the 18-135, qualitywise probably you wont see any difference and you have more zoom.
From the 18-55 to the 17-55, for all the reviews and tests I saw, its a nice upgrade, but you wont have the extra zoom and this lens doesnt come as a kit
If you really want to see a big difference than consider upgrading to an L grade lens.



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Drago76
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Message edited at 01/12/2013, 01:16:29 AM by Drago76

Originally posted by Lostarts:
Quoted Message: You might also research Sigma lenses. I`ve owned Tamron and the quality isn`t as good as Sigma in my experiences.


a years ago i buyed Sigma 28-70mm F2.8-4.0 DG as a change for kit 18-55 for eos 350D. not see big difference, as so i sell sigma, and until now using a kit one.

2Afagundes: L series is way too expensive for me...even kit with 18-135 instead kit with 18-55 is expensive, but that expense i can afford...
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Yoavsinai
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Message posted at 01/12/2013, 10:11:43 AM by Yoavsinai
I changed my Sony kit lens 18-70 to Tamron 17-50 1:2.8 and my AR went from around 45% to around 80% it's a big big difference
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Drago76
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Message posted at 01/13/2013, 01:23:48 AM by Drago76

Originally posted by Yoavsinai:
Quoted Message: I changed my Sony kit lens 18-70 to Tamron 17-50 1:2.8 and my AR went from around 45% to around 80% it`s a big big difference


strange. before this, mostly reject reasons be "poor optics" ? :-O
i, with my 350d and kit, never had encounter that reject reason. on my canon powershot a95 compact - yes, but never on my dslr...
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Yoavsinai
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Message posted at 01/13/2013, 11:50:38 AM by Yoavsinai
not only poor optics also other rejections connected to lens quality like noise
may by the kit lens of canon is better then sony but my kit lens wasn't good
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Drago76
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Message posted at 01/13/2013, 12:50:44 PM by Drago76

Originally posted by Yoavsinai:
Quoted Message: not only poor optics also other rejections connected to lens quality like noise may by the kit lens of canon is better then sony but my kit lens wasn`t good

noise is sensor camera related thing, its cannot make from lens...
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Danielc1998
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Message edited at 01/15/2013, 16:55:18 PM by Danielc1998
I dont know about the 18-55 IS , I own a canon 18-135 IS which is the kit lens for the 600d and the main complain i have about this lens is a huge chromatic aberration at all focal lenghts which force me to fix it in post-processing.
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Myrsphoto
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Message edited at 01/15/2013, 17:19:18 PM by Myrsphoto
My main lens is a Canon 28-135 IS left over from my last 35mm SLR. It serves well but will be updated soon. I played with an 18-135 STM in a camera store but didn't take any photos so I have no opinion on the IQ. The lens seemed to be pretty well made and everything worked smoothly but had no full time manual (important for me) and it is only 18mm. 2 or 3 mm in that range can make a huge difference.

I had an old style 18-55 kit lens which was not very good. I found a used body in a camera store with the newer IS version of the kit lens and talked them into trading for $10. The IS is really good and very quiet and the IQ is improved. It feels cheap but works well. I want something better but this is good enough to wait until I can buy some L glass.

If it were me with your lens, I wouldn't buy the 18-135. I'd get a 15-85 IS or a 17-55 IS 2.8. Might as well upgrade instead of crossgrade.


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Flyingdolphin
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Message posted at 01/20/2013, 14:06:38 PM by Flyingdolphin

Originally posted by Danielc1998:
Quoted Message: I dont know about the 18-55 IS , I own a canon 18-135 IS which is the kit lens for the 600d and the main complain i have about this lens is a huge chromatic aberration at all focal lenghts which force me to fix it in post-processing.


I have just got the lens as well and noticed I had the same problem with noise, I had never seen it with my old lens, canon 17-85mm (which broke). I thought it must be the camera but now I wonder if it is the lens, as it is a bit of a coincidence.
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Pulsar124
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Message posted at 02/25/2013, 21:19:22 PM by Pulsar124
Check photozone.de - they produce very good lens reviews. According to them the new (STM) version of 18-135mm is much better optically (and is now on par with 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS) than the old, non-STM version. So if your goal is to replace two kit lenses (18-55 and 55-250) with one, without loosing IQ, 18-135 STM looks like a good choice.

But if you goal is to get better quality + faster optics, you should probably consider 17-5x f2.8 zooms - Tamron (non-VC), Sigma OS, or Canon.
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