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My first sale but confused over the subscription sale

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Murdock2013
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Message edited at 01/18/2013, 17:09:43 PM by Murdock2013
I just sold my first image. but please can you tell me what a subscription sale is..


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Murdock2013
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Message edited at 01/18/2013, 17:18:33 PM by Murdock2013
The details of the sale was as follows subscription$0.29subscription extralarge(RF
Waiting in anticipation! lol


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Rccster
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Message posted at 01/18/2013, 17:31:57 PM by Rccster
I believe it means the designer pays a fixed sum to download a number of images. Isn't it typical though that subscription sales are almost exclusively in "extra large" or "additional format"? ;)


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Murdock2013
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Message posted at 01/18/2013, 17:38:31 PM by Murdock2013
Hi Rccster. Yes the extra large size got me!!! Going by your experience do you get more of these subscription purchases than other ones? thanks for answering my question it has put my mind at rest.



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Rccster
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 01:00:24 AM by Rccster
14 out of my humble 24 sales are subscription sales. It would be interesting to hear from someone with far more downloads to see what they get more of.


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Igordabari
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 01:13:21 AM by Igordabari
It's about a half.

And do not dislike subs as they make image to grow to next level, so credit sales will bring more money. RPD (Revenue per Download) grows thanks to the level system. When I started my RPD was around $0.7, now it's $2.4.

So, subs play their role and one should value them :)
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Rccster
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 01:45:21 AM by Rccster
Good point Igordabari! I tend to forget that :)


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Clearvista
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 02:55:40 AM by Clearvista
Hello just to let you know that out of my sales 55 have been subs. Congratulations on your first sale-hope you get many more soon.
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Murdock2013
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 04:16:19 AM by Murdock2013
Thanks Clearvista. I must admit I was confused with the subscription sale at first, obviously I did not research enough what they were all about. Rccter I asked this question on another thread and the average now seems to be around 50 percent like Egor mentioned, so Clearvista you have done well with yours. Have a great weekend everyone and thanks again for the input!!


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Peanutroaster
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 12:44:47 PM by Peanutroaster
Sometimes you'll get a rash of sub sales, then a bunch of credit sales, or one than the other. No way to anticipate.

Sub sales do raise up the value of your images so any sale is a good thing. It can be disheartening when someone downloads an XL but wouldn't you if you were a subscriber? They can always shrink it.

Keep in mind a lot of subs never get used. A designer might download a bunch for several versions of a design and not end up using your image in the end.
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 15:36:30 PM by Miraclemoments
Congrats with the first sale.
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Murdock2013
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 16:10:18 PM by Murdock2013
Thanks everyone for all the messages I really value your advise and experience, In the past week I have made so many mistakes and its been very frustrating but with this I have also learned so much.. Thanks Miraclemoments for the Congrats!! I have ended up deleting over half the files I have uploaded over the past week or so and started again. so hopefully now I will increase my future uploads! Thanks again everyone.


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Red
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Message edited at 01/19/2013, 17:17:14 PM by Red
Well, here I go again. I'm known as a bit of a "keyword nut" around here but I am only trying to help and since you are new and seem sincere I will offer this. This is a great shot because it is of a pretty little girl in action, not just staring at the camera. I see many sales of this one. She is (I assume) your daughter so you will have many years of being able to get great shots of her. Keep taking pics of her doing things not just looking pretty (which she is).

   little girl spinning   

These are your keywords for this image, and some suggestions.

asian background blue brunette caucasian copy dress elegant enjoyment fashion flyaway fresh fun girl gorgeous hairstyle happy healthy hot laugh long loving mixed model natural necklace party pearl pearls pretty race smile space spin spinning trim twirl twirling white woman young

I'd remove... blue (what is blue?), copy or space (not needed), elegant (this is a cute little girl, elegant is defined as "tastefully fine or luxurious in dress", fashion (not a model posed for a fashion magazine), gorgeous (yes, she is your little girl so you will think that she is gorgeous but cute and pretty are better adjectives for a child), healthy (how do we know that she is healthy and this is not a commonly searched for keyword), necklace (she is not wearing a necklace), party (I see no evidence of a party), pearls (?), trim (?), woman (she is a child or a girl or a female, not a woman). And, perhaps, some others could be removed.

Think like a buyer. If I were looking for an image like this I might search with "little girl spinning (or twirling, or having fun) outdoors" as a start and only those words. I might then add pink dress if I needed it to fit in with another color in my article or on my website. But I wouldn't bother to search using many other words. Possibly asian but as she looks as if she could fall under several ethnicities this might not be as important as you think it is. I wouldn't search using loving or hot (I hope you don't mean sexy but are referring to the weather), or long hairstyle. Add child, cute and possibly youth, outdoors and outside to your keywords.

I know it's difficult when you are not English native-speaking but watch your keywords, less are better if they are great keywords.


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Murdock2013
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Message edited at 01/20/2013, 14:20:51 PM by Murdock2013
Hi Red, You have just taught me my next lesson and you are totally right.Being a newbie I rushed into things to get my pictures uploaded without thinking of the finer details. I looked at pictures that were selling well and copied the keywords without editing them. (which I now know I should not have done) I very much appreciate any advise and help as you know I am totally new to this and Im not a professional. So thank you very much. I have noted everything you have said and removed the wrong keywords and renamed the pictures and descriptions to suit.. not just to this picture but to my other ones. Thanks for all your time Red.


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Linda81
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Message posted at 01/20/2013, 06:35:11 AM by Linda81

Originally posted by Murdock2013:
Quoted Message: ... I looked at pictures that were selling well and copied the keywords without editing them...


It is not good idea! Excuse, but you just steal them from other photographers. Better, write your own ones!
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Murdock2013
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Message edited at 01/20/2013, 12:17:22 PM by Murdock2013
As I said Linda. I am totally new to this and I'm learning what to do and what not to do and I have made many mistakes and been totally honest with my posts. I certainly would not have mentioned about the keywords if I thought I was stealing keywords as you so kindly put it. I notice you have been a member here since 2008 and have no uploads. have you joined just to Criticize, hopefully you do not work for DT.. As I said I am making lots of mistakes but its nice to have kind constructive Criticism for instance Reds Post to me and I have learned so much from his advise... I understand where you are coming from and will do my own keywords in future but I would suggest learning to Criticize in a constructive way. There are certainly nicer ways of putting things to help people out.


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Murdock2013
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Message edited at 01/24/2013, 09:32:39 AM by Murdock2013
Many thanks everyone for your advice.


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