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Model Releases policies

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Dreamphoto
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 16:30:13 PM by Dreamphoto
Why does Dreamstime not require a MD for each specific date of a shoot with a models.
you only need 1 MD per model in an age group?

Other agencies request you have a new MD for each specific shoot date.. This is standard.
I think it would be less confusing to associate each date of shoot with the same dated MD.
Does anyone see a problem with this standard practice?

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Red
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Message posted at 01/19/2013, 16:45:09 PM by Red
This was discussed some time ago and the link below is from an old thread but it may help you to understand the reasoning behind this. In essence it says that you can upload multiple model releases if you feel it is better for you and you are encouraged to do so for your own personal records but uploading just one and linking to it enables the DT site feature "Other stock images with this model" that shows up underneath your people images. This is a plus if a buyer is looking for shots with the same model in them.

One model release for different shoots?


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Dudau
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Message posted at 01/20/2013, 09:59:58 AM by Dudau - member is an admin
Actually, that old thread is really old and things changed. There are many more recent threads about it, here's one of them.

In your MR Library, you can read this text, written in red:
Important: Ensure that you upload the correct MR for your model and do not upload more than one MR document per model while in the same age group. If you accidentally uploaded twice the same MR document, please email us the fileIDs using the contact form.

You can sign a new model release for each shooting with the same model, and we strongly recommend you to do so, just don't upload it on Dreamstime.

We're asking for only one MR per model per age group, so we can use the feature "other images with this model", as Red said.

We are not the law court (although we're trying to make sure that no one will get there when dealing with us) and we're only asking for a proof that the model knows the purpose of the photos.

Photographers are still responsible for their actions, with or without a model release uploaded.
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Red
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Message posted at 01/20/2013, 10:26:10 AM by Red
Another reason to purge some old, misleading threads especially when newcomers are encouraged to "search the threads" when asking new questions. I see no reason to keep some of the older threads with no important info after a couple of years to make searching easier (like all the hello I'm new, welcome threads). Important takeaway is the same, keep a model release for each shoot in your own personal files but only upload one to DT to activate the "other images with this model."


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Dreamphoto
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Message posted at 01/21/2013, 18:34:29 PM by Dreamphoto
it is clear now. I have consolidated my MDs. Thanks for the help guys.
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Cobalt
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Message posted at 03/23/2013, 05:50:13 AM by Cobalt
I have another question: when I take a picture of myself do I need a witness? At my other agency, if the photographer is the model, then we just fill out the form ourselves and write "SELF-RELSEASE" into the witness area.

I have no plans to sue myself. ;)

The other question I have:

Dreamstime does not accept the model releases from my main agency. Since so many people are now leaving exclusivity there, might it not be worth to rethink that policy and accept their release? There will be thousands and thousands of files that cannot be uploaded here, because I doubt we will all go back to the models to get new releases just for Dreamstime.

I am not a lawyer, but is it really so extremly dangerous if you accept that release? It seems everyone else in the industry is fine with it.

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Godfer
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Message posted at 03/26/2013, 03:16:59 AM by Godfer

Originally posted by Cobalt:
Quoted Message: :Dreamstime does not accept the model releases from my main agency. Since so many people are now leaving exclusivity there, might it not be worth to rethink that policy and accept their release? .

I believe that there is certain wording on that release which makes it only legal for a Canadian based company. Also the model is just signing permission for the images to be sold at the stated agency
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Cobalt
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Message edited at 03/26/2013, 03:55:17 AM by Cobalt
But the release is being accepted at all US agencies, including the "Mother ship" of that canadian agency. The text is the exact same as the Model release of GI, which is a US company. The model does not sign that their images will only be sold on that agency, that is not part of the text.
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Godfer
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Message edited at 03/26/2013, 04:29:02 AM by Godfer
Edited as I misread your post.
Good luck as an independent.
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Cobalt
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Message posted at 03/26/2013, 17:14:05 PM by Cobalt
Thank you. I hope it works out. There are many people watching us. If we succeed, I think nobody will be scared of leaving ever again. It would also be a sign that the industry has become more balanced with several agency who are strong and solid as opposed to one super agency that dominates everything.

But I still wonder why dreamstime doesn´t take my model releases ;). So many good people with good portfolios coming to the market and everyone else is taking that release.
I am not a lawyer, but if the release was risky wouldn´t it be rejected everywhere?
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Dudau
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Message edited at 03/26/2013, 17:44:23 PM by Admin
I think there may be some misunderstanding here, you better contact support and clarify this issue.

We do accept generic model releases, other than our own, we just don't accept model releases signed specifically for other agencies.

So, if you have model releases with just the logo of another agency somewhere in the corner, erase that logo and submit them.

On the other hand, if another agency is specified in the legal text, we cannot accept it, you'll have to provide another MR. The photos are important, but nothing is more important than the law.

Anyway, don't hesitate to contact support whenever you have problems, nobody can give you a better answer than them.

Welcome back :) and good luck!
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Cobalt
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Message posted at 03/27/2013, 04:13:51 AM by Cobalt
Ok great! This is a question that affects many of my peers. I´ll contact support and try uploading with the agency name on the release removed. Thank you!
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Heungyoulyin
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Message posted at 12/19/2013, 00:27:56 AM by Heungyoulyin
I'd like to participate New Assignment: Night Light.
Please help me to upload my photograph.
Thanks,
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Dieniti
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Message posted at 12/19/2013, 01:48:26 AM by Dieniti

Originally posted by Heungyoulyin:
Quoted Message: I`d like to participate New Assignment: Night Light.Please help me to upload my photograph.Thanks,


I am sorry Heungyoulyin but the Submission is closed since the 12/06/2013. Despite that you have to have at least 50 Images online in order to participate.
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