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exclusive images has better search result?

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Macbrianmun
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Message posted at 01/21/2013, 18:21:27 PM by Macbrianmun
Greetings everyone. I'm very new to dreamstime and I just wanna know if it's true that exclusive images are more prominent in terms of searches by customers?

Thanks.


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Mudplucker
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Message posted at 01/21/2013, 20:59:39 PM by Mudplucker
i really don't know. I joined last year but have not had any sales yet, although i only have 18 photos online. I just joined another site and got approved for my exam and they approved all of my first batch of photos so I am gonna just listen to what Yuri Arcurs says: that it is a numbers game. The more dollars per day you want to earn, the more photos you need out there for sale. So if you have 100 photos and they are on 10 different sites you actually have 1000 items for sale at any given time. If you stick to 1 place then you only have 100 items for sale at any given time. whether or not the extra money per photo makes up the difference i really could not say. I'm going to shoot for more photos, better quality, ones that might be needed by hundreds of people (like, fruits, veggies and the like) and unique shots of ides i have been writing in a notebook when they pop into my head. And if you want to isolate images, look up Parkinsonsniper here on DT, he is the King of Isolation !...
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Igordabari
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Message posted at 01/21/2013, 22:09:44 PM by Igordabari
As admins said - YES, exclusivity affects relevancy. But nobody except for themselves do not know (and will not know) how much, as relevancy formula is a top secret of any stock including DT :)
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Achilles
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 01:30:29 AM by Achilles - member is an admin
Exclusivity affects placement, not relevancy. The first criteria is relevancy, if you look for apples, we don't show you oranges. This is why (along with improving your photos trying to photograph the perfect apple) you need to look carefully into how you keyword your images (check the blogs & utilities section).

Once you do this, there are various factors that tell us about yourself and your skills. Two of them are exclusivity-related: fully exclusive and exclusive images. The formula matters less, they do help your images to be placed in front of others, hence they can compensate for some other quality factors, where you don't do that well.
If your portfolio is one of the best, then you don't need to compensate this way, your images could be already on top. That's when exclusivity matters less. In most cases (if you're not a pro) it does help you although it doesn't do all the work.


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Igordabari
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 04:21:24 AM by Igordabari
Achilles, thank you for explanation but I am still confused by your statement Exclusivity affects placement, not relevancy.

Images are placed in search results by relevancy on default, right? So, is not it the same? The higher is relevancy, the better is placement. These 2 terms are closely connected. If so, how exclusivity can affect one of them without affecting other?!
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Achilles
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Message edited at 01/22/2013, 04:40:13 AM by Admin
Relevancy is one of the parts of the algorithm. We're talking about the same thing, but I think you consider relevancy and placement to be the same thing. They are not. Relevancy refers to the degree of relevance of an image against the keyword search, while placement is the actual positioning of an image in a search.


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Igordabari
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 06:17:52 AM by Igordabari
OK, I ment the following. Suppose there are 2 images from two different contributors with titles, descriptions and keywords that are ABSOLUTELY similar. Now someone are looking just for this type of images putting some string in the search line. Both images should be of equal relevancy relative to this request, right? But if one contributor works exclusively for DT and second one doesn't, exclusive image will be placed better. Given that results are ordered just by relevancy it would be correct to say that relavancy for exclusive image is better than relevancy for non-exclusive one which results in different placement.

That's what I wanted to say.
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Yellowind
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 07:20:47 AM by Yellowind - member is an admin
Well, it's a little out off the topic. It has been several times that I opened one of my images, made it bigger, I mean I "touched" it and in the same day the picture was sold. It looks like naked coincidence. But I have over 900 pics and I was opened just a few. And one of them was sold. This happened three times at least.
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Wisconsinart
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 07:43:35 AM by Wisconsinart
I sold an image while asleep in bed.

Told the boss to kiss off and now I stay in bed all day.

This is not a coincidence! It works! Honest!
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Yellowind
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 07:57:30 AM by Yellowind - member is an admin
Told the boss to kiss off and now I stay in bed all day. [/quote]

cha cha, brilliant!
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Achilles
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 10:54:50 AM by Achilles - member is an admin

Originally posted by Igordabari:
Quoted Message: OK, I ment the following. Suppose there are 2 images from two different contributors with titles, descriptions and keywords that are ABSOLUTELY similar. Now someone are looking just for this type of images putting some string in the search line. Both images should be of equal relevancy relative to this request, right? But if one contributor works exclusively for DT and second one doesn`t, exclusive image will be placed better. Given that results are ordered just by relevancy it would be correct to say that relavancy for exclusive image is better than relevancy for non-exclusive one which results in different placement.That`s what I wanted to say.


Yes, that is correct.


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Igordabari
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Message posted at 01/22/2013, 11:13:02 AM by Igordabari

Originally posted by Achilles:
Quoted Message: Yes, that is correct.


Thanks, Serban. That's why I'm still exclusive in spite of all :)
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Parkinsonsniper
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Message posted at 01/23/2013, 01:43:36 AM by Parkinsonsniper
I like when Achilles show up and answer the question, but at the same time I hate it because there is nothing left for us to write now! LOL
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Achilles
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Message edited at 01/23/2013, 04:10:31 AM by Admin
I can delete my posts if you want :)


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Parkinsonsniper
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Message posted at 01/23/2013, 04:12:30 AM by Parkinsonsniper
Noo keep them :) :P I can find another thread for myself :)
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