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sRGB or AdobeRGB and why

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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 02:39:26 AM by Miraclemoments
Just scanned through an article about the use of sRGB vs AdobeRGB. If you are printing the AdobeRGB is the color space for you. But what are most of you using? I personally stick with Adobe RGB.

Just thought it might be interesting to see what others use?

Cheers
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Igordabari
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 02:56:54 AM by Igordabari
Buyers take images from the DT site. So, from the web. Just here they choose, estimate, compare images to each other and finally take decision. So, I believe that it is correctly to put on DT images in color space which suits more for web. Which is sRGB. If designer needs he or she is ever able to transform then sRGB to Adobe RGB.
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 03:04:18 AM by Miraclemoments
That is what I was wondering...do you use sRGB Igor??
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Igordabari
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 03:09:22 AM by Igordabari

Originally posted by Miraclemoments:
Quoted Message: do you use sRGB Igor??


Sure
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Dieniti
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 03:53:05 AM by Dieniti
I use AdobeRGB because I optimise many of the pics in photoshop. Most specialized books for photoshop recommend AdobeRGB like those written by Scott Kelby...
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Bogdanzagan
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 07:20:24 AM by Bogdanzagan
If you upload only here it's ok either srgb or adobergb... but other agencies cannot handle correctly adobergb and you may end up with dull colors in yur images.

I personally use sRGB to be sure that my files have the same aspect regardless the used software.
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 08:00:15 AM by Miraclemoments
Thanks...that said is DT able to handle SRGB??
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Danielc1998
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Message edited at 02/19/2013, 11:24:33 AM by Danielc1998
I use sRGB too. I think it is the recommended color space for internet and the most used.
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Sijohnsen
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 12:10:59 PM by Sijohnsen
Adobe RGB is the bigger colour space so you can convert that to sRGB but not the other way without your computer having to try to work out the correct colours. As for which is better, well I always work in adobeRGB to keep the maximum information in a file, since I never know what the final usage may be, if I was just shooting for microstock then I might be tempted to use sRGB, which does look better in a browser.
But once again we come back to the problems of monitor quality and calibration, if you dont have a properly set up monitor and only allow your files to be viewed by buyers with calibrated monitors then its all pretty much a case of splitting hairs, you may as well just do what suits you best.
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Bogdanzagan
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 12:27:35 PM by Bogdanzagan
If you are serious about photography you shoot RAW. The thread was about srgb vs. adobe rgb in a web environment :)
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Naretev
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Message posted at 02/19/2013, 21:15:44 PM by Naretev
My guess is 95% of the population can't tell the difference and those of us that can aren't buying the photos anyway because we're too busy counting pixels or color space. :-D
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TMarchev
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 00:12:15 AM by TMarchev
And i use adobe sRGB... in my images, but for the photos RGB is good!


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Mturhanlar
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 15:18:33 PM by Mturhanlar
Hi everyone
topic little different but I want to ask on that board.. do you upload your raw on site? for example Im having effects some of my works and later Im uploading photos to dreamstime but when we uploading raw its not same with the photos that we already have uploaded
thanks all of you good luck
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 15:25:00 PM by Miraclemoments
I don't upload RAW...never. Your only original.

Please stay on topic if possible...thanks.
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Mike2focus
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 19:51:26 PM by Mike2focus
I have set my Camera Raw program to open my images in sRGB and that's where I stay for all the post production work. Here's why... First, I've found the least color shift when uploading to DT when the image is in sRGB. Second, have you ever converted an Adobe RGB image to sRGB?! The colors fall flat. And I mean, very flat! So, to bring your image back to nice saturated color you have to go through more post production work. That is counter productive to workflow.

I have found a very nice technique to convert from Adobe RGB to sRGB without a huge amount of color loss. Here's how to do that... Convert your Adobe RGB image to the LAB color format. Then from LAB, convert to sRGB. The color loss will be minimal, but some saturation compensation may still need to be done. But this is definitely the best way I have found to get from Adobe RGB to sRGB without completely undermining your color.

My two cents :-)
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 19:57:58 PM by Afagundes
This topic was discussed in the past, I think you should upload sRGB, not because its the best, but because many monitors will show your AdobeRGB images in a very flat bad looking way, so buyers won´t go for it.
If you have uploaded a RAW file, they can always process it to AdobeRGB, or they can always ask you to upload an AdobeRGB version or even wider gamut if they want to, but this all is worthless if they passed by your image because it didn´t look as good as the other thumb in sRGB.
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Mike2focus
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Message edited at 02/20/2013, 23:14:20 PM by Mike2focus
Great points, Alexandre! And a lot of us get so far away from the original RAW file when we do conceptual compositions that combine various photos into a final photo. You can open a file in the RAW environment after putting a conceptual image together, but this is not the original RAW file that you'd get from doing one exposure on a subject for the final photo. Bottom line, the sRGB format seems to be the best format for stock uploads. Sounds like everyone is agreeing on this point.
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Message posted at 03/03/2013, 03:35:13 AM by Robinstockphotos
I have read that AdobeRGB looks dull when viewed in some screens/web browsers. sRGB is technically better because it is a common format that is compatible almost everywhere including low end screens or mobile devices.
So technically speaking, go for sRGB for proper colors. Bt some sites like Facebook tend to reduce saturation of images even when they are saves as sRGB. I usually boost all fb post images with a master saturation of +8 to +12.
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 03/03/2013, 11:32:00 AM by Afagundes
Does anybody knows if sRGB is the best for a retina display, say, an IPAD or a new MAC monitor?

Or maybe a wider color space would show better on those newer displays?
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Message posted at 03/03/2013, 12:03:19 PM by Robinstockphotos
It depends on how you are viewing on those devices. Some devices calibrate the display with their own color profile by default and then the difference in color profile is noticeable.
If the browser uses the color profile specified by the image, then the image would always look the same. No noticeable difference.

Suppose you used the new display and view the photo using the picture viewer, it would look perfect because the picture viewer immediately calibrates display as specified in the image file.
Next you use a web browser that runs a default profile of it's own without bothering about images. Then it might look dull.
32 bit displays have a great color depth. Mobile devices use the 16 or 24-bit system usually though. LCD monitors use 32 bit without calibration. You can make it 8 or 16 bit.
The oldest computers used 3 bit systems too. Only 8 colors possible.
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