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"Your text HERE" - a good idea?

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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 13:33:38 PM by Robinstockphotos
New article posted: "Your text HERE" - a good idea?
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Fantasyart
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 20:19:05 PM by Fantasyart
I think you're right in what you say. I had the same doubt. Write Text or not to? I think it's best to leave it empty. Simpler for the customer and more likely to sell our image.
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 23:11:19 PM by Robinstockphotos
Yeah, quite evident from the thread that we're wasting our time on it and their time on it too for nothing.
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Solidsdman
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Message posted at 02/20/2013, 23:17:58 PM by Solidsdman
It's true all of our customers aren't web designers, but the customers who buy our expensive images are. I think most medium to maximum size images are bought by print or web designers who certainly are expert at Photoshop or Illustrator, etc. The small and extra small images are used mostly by bloggers or used in web ads that the user just wants to buy and paste. So if you have an interesting image, I don't think it matters much to the high-end user if you have "your text here" or not. The higher end user won't care. I think it's rather redundant to put "your text here" anyway when clearly they can see that there is room to put their text there! You don't need to tell them that. All you need to do is add "copy space" in the keywords.
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Igordabari
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Message posted at 02/21/2013, 00:35:23 AM by Igordabari
Empty copy space (that can be filled by 'Your Text Here' or left empty) is created to insert there some text. That means that buyer has a tool to insert this text. But this means, in turn, that buyer is able to remove 'Your Text Here', as well.

It is extremely easy and person who is experienced in wroting FOR SURE should know how remove some elements from the image. Because both these operations represent the parts of the same skills.

So, I see no harm in this inscription. On my opinion, it isn't needed to show WHERE SOME TEXT FROM DESIGNER SHOULD BE PUT - it is visible without any inscription. It is needed to show HOW THE IMAGE WITH TEXT WILL LOOK. Which is important to realize when choosing image to upload it.
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TMarchev
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Message posted at 02/21/2013, 02:13:05 AM by TMarchev
Lool in future i don't add text to my files!


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Message posted at 02/21/2013, 03:07:21 AM by Robinstockphotos
@Igordabari, I agree with that. That is exactly I said in the article that we should not USUALLY put text in there. There are certain things that would look totally incomplete without the text, like web templates and very specific greeting cards (not generic card backgrounds).
Adding text to give a feel of what it would look like is a good idea, but I'd still suggest that contributors with
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Egomezta
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Message posted at 02/21/2013, 12:52:57 PM by Egomezta
I totally agree with you, a buyer doesn't need "your text here" to imagine where they can write or not...
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Celiaak
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Message posted at 02/22/2013, 11:55:10 AM by Celiaak
I usually let thr space blank. But sometimes I put an elusive text (like happy mother's day) and these tend to sell better, because they give the idea on how they will look like when finished.
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Babar760
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Message posted at 02/23/2013, 07:15:46 AM by Babar760
What I would like to know is,"where were you when you shot this lovely picture of the earth?" If you have the money to get to the space station, why are you bothered with selling stock pictures for a few pennies?
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Harshvardhan
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Message posted at 02/23/2013, 10:50:40 AM by Harshvardhan
By adding YOUR TEXT here, we restrict the creativity of the designer or the buyer. As rightly commented by many learned personalities here that when there is a space in your image, we should let it to be the prerogative of the designer or the buyer to allow him/her to put some text or something else he/she desires, rather than directing him/her to write text on the space. But anyway good discussion for absolute beginners. thanx very much!
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Message posted at 02/23/2013, 12:55:03 PM by Robinstockphotos
Babar760, those who have the ability shoot those photos for us.
I'd still submit photos here if I were a millionair. It's more about competing and satisfaction of watching your work going somewhere than earning (my views).
If people who had money for a EOS 1D and 800 mm professional lens stopped shooting just because they have enough money for the gear...there wouldn't be anyone good at photography.
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Cogent
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Message posted at 02/25/2013, 09:43:52 AM by Cogent
In regard to the question about adding text - the clear majority of my best sellers (not here) all have text in the white space. I have to modify the images to submit here (usually) as they get rejected for too much white space. Sadly the same images do not sell well here at all. I am a designer primarily and a photographer second. I tried to argue my point with the admins here but they think they know best. Actually the customers know best and they buy my images from other sites instead. Do I lose ? No. Does DT lose, yes. Their call, their mistake. Their loss. Now a just don't bother.


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Xevious
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Message posted at 02/27/2013, 00:38:16 AM by Xevious
IF text is usefull and EASILY removable (only on blank zone, no gradients or textures, for example), i think this is a good feature. The rason is that the image appears in its complete aspect, then looks really more pleasant, and not with a blank portion (as the "incomplete" jobs).
Be curious.

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Rolmat
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Message edited at 02/27/2013, 01:53:41 AM by Admin

Originally posted by Cogent:
Quoted Message: In regard to the question about adding text - the clear majority of my best sellers (not here) all have text in the white space. I have to modify the images to submit here (usually) as they get rejected for too much white space. Sadly the same images do not sell well here at all. I am a designer primarily and a photographer second. I tried to argue my point with the admins here but they think they know best. Actually the customers know best and they buy my images from other sites instead. Do I lose ? No. Does DT lose, yes. Their call, their mistake. Their loss. Now a just dont bother.


Thanks for your input Cogent.
We understand your argument, but what you seem not to be considering is that by adding "example texts" in areas not covered by the main subject matter - eg out of the composition -, you are artificially increasing the size of the whole image thus affecting its pricing - not to mention that most of the times designers won't be able to edit such texts, and probabilities they will use such images "as is" is generally low. So, it's all about including some visual added value, turning images more "catchy" when they should "speak" by it-selves. We call it concept, no need for extra "topping". :)

Also, please let us assume that when searching for a particular image, almost all designers already have a pretty good idea on how to use it, and believe me, most of them prefer to do their own home work with graphics and lettering. Naturally, illustrations are another story, still there are cases when such texts are absolutely redundant/irrelevant.
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Cogent
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Message posted at 02/27/2013, 14:20:54 PM by Cogent
Thanks for your input Cogent.
We understand your argument, but what you seem not to be considering is that by adding "example texts" in areas not covered by the main subject matter - eg out of the composition -, you are artificially increasing the size of the whole image thus affecting its pricing - not to mention that most of the times designers won't be able to edit such texts, and probabilities they will use such images "as is" is generally low. So, it's all about including some visual added value, turning images more "catchy" when they should "speak" by it-selves. We call it concept, no need for extra "topping". :)

Also, please let us assume that when searching for a particular image, almost all designers already have a pretty good idea on how to use it, and believe me, most of them prefer to do their own home work with graphics and lettering. Naturally, illustrations are another story, still there are cases when such texts are absolutely redundant/irrelevant.

Your response is exactly the same as previous admins in this regard. It is also equally wrong. The text I add in 'within composition' and therefore does not increase the file size. So that argument goes away completely.

The sales speak for themselves. It does not matter frankly how many times you deny the fact, you are simply wrong. repeating your flawed argument does not make you right, not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

As my original closing comment stated, I am no longer interested in arguing the point, you're wrong and no matter what I say (or show as proof) you just stick to your mantra. That's fine, your lose. That's why I don't bother anymore. This is the last place I upload and in many cases I just don't bother. Take a look over the parapet and see where DT lies in position with other sites - not encouraging is it? And it's getting progressively worse. Now I wonder why that is - considering your firm stance that you know exactly what your doing...

You don't.


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Photobee
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Message posted at 02/27/2013, 18:14:10 PM by Photobee
Add "your text" in the image margin. I feel the same way!
The excessive image editing. May affect sales.
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Message posted at 02/28/2013, 02:04:55 AM by Robinstockphotos
Maybe you could just think who would buy your image most probably?
Suppose it is basically a blog type image, don't add text.
And if it is something like a template, etc, then add text.
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