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Message posted at 03/20/2013, 07:28:26 AM by Robinstockphotos
I don't wish to repeat earlier discussions on increasing portfolio exposure and getting your work seen. We all know about the classics - write a long description, keyword nicely, post around the message boards, open a Facebook page or website, participate in third party competitions and all that.

I was wondering if anyone of you has discovered any innovative and efficient (results vs time) way of increasing social media or general internet presence?
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Parkinsonsniper
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Message edited at 03/20/2013, 08:35:15 AM by Parkinsonsniper
I'm not very good at social media but I think you need more "ammo" before you go to war :)
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Miraclemoments
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Message posted at 03/20/2013, 08:45:46 AM by Miraclemoments
Ditto on Parkinsonsniper....

Portfolio size matters. Good images that portray good concepts matter. The rest will take care of itself. Just keep uploading like you are. 35 so far for the month is good going. Keep it up.
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Lenutaidi
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Message posted at 03/20/2013, 09:44:51 AM by Lenutaidi
Yes,keep it up!Up.....!:)   glass apples   


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Message posted at 03/20/2013, 10:12:42 AM by Robinstockphotos
I'm not talking about myself!

Just intending it to be a useful thread for everyone in general.
As for ammo, that's going to keep coming. Watch my port and sales grow. I'm seriously doing this. Income and stats tripling every month. I trash 8/10 shots for not being potentially good stock. Quality matters too. :)
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Mudplucker
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Message posted at 03/20/2013, 11:58:01 AM by Mudplucker
Robinstockphotos: you're going about things just fine and you have some great photoshop skills ! I haven't got the social media thing quite figured out myself but i do know that DT has websites in every country in their respective languages so i think posting here probably helps in your placements and stuff.
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Bogdanzagan
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Message posted at 03/21/2013, 03:33:31 AM by Bogdanzagan
I can tell you from my experience... I focus on quality, hence on some agencies my pictures were promoted on latest uploads page or selected to be part of bundle collections.

So, the result is that I have more time focusing on concepts and I generate sales I did not imagined a month ago.

You have to study the market for every agency. Here on DT sell images that are not selling very well else where and don't sell images that are selling very well on other agencies.

Coming back on the main subject, at first the social media presence has little impact over your sales but you can build an audience over time. You can use social media especially for getting referrals.
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 03/21/2013, 06:37:37 AM by Afagundes
I currently have 12000 followers in Google+, a few hundreds likes in my facebook page, 63 followers in pinterest and 1000 followers in Instagram.

I can tell you there is no free lunch, it takes time to build your audience, but I think the rewards are quite nice even though very hard to tell which sales came from that channel.

The rewards I am having "for sure" are interaction with people from all over the world, a lot of information exchange and a constant drive pushing me to make better images.

If I would suggest something, go with Google+ and Instagram where the interaction is much higher than the other media.

If you want to take a look, here are my pages

Google+ http://plus.google.com/u/0/106991794507632128274/posts
Facebook http://www.facebook.com/alexandre.fagundes.de.fagundes?ref=tn_tnmn
Pinterest http://pinterest.com/alexfagundes/
Instagram look for alexaffagundes

Cheers,
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Komar
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Message posted at 03/21/2013, 13:00:04 PM by Komar

Originally posted by Afagundes:
Quoted Message: I currently have 12000 followers in Google+, a few hundreds likes in my facebook page, 63 followers in pinterest and 1000 followers in Instagram.

Man I would just get so paranoid with all these people following me ;)


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Message posted at 03/21/2013, 14:21:54 PM by Robinstockphotos
12000 followers is reasonable for you, looking at the size of your portfolio and the content. Thanks for sharing. This is the sort of information I was looking for. I know I don't have great content in huge amounts right now, but I aim to be something in the future. Even though this is a hobby, I cannot afford to just stay whatever I am and drag on. This field is worth putting a serious effort into.
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Wisconsinart
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Message posted at 03/21/2013, 19:22:02 PM by Wisconsinart
If you're looking to increase exposure by raising your "web presence," forget it. I work in Information technology and can tell you it's a complete waste of time to use social media or any other means to increase your chances of people finding your images.

Buyers do not look for images on Facebook, they go to online stock sites. Tweeting images is ridiculous, that will not raise your images in Google searches (I know some will disagree with that but... No, it doesn't!!!!). If you have 12,000 followers, tweeting might work now and then, but those people found you through other means and not from tweets.

I would suggest creating a nice web site and using it more as an electronic business card. You can refer people to it when you're out and about and meet with strangers who are curious about your camera and photography or you can provide credibility of who you are if someone needs to see your work.

What Afagundes is doing is the way to go. Afagundes is more involved with a community of sorts which has its own rewards from mingling with other photographers and perhaps some buyers. But this takes time and work to build relationships and friends. Very little sales, if any, comes from this, but what you learn can be applied to your photography and that is where the payoff comes. In the end, it's just what others have mentioned: concentrate on producing quality.
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Afagundes
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Message posted at 03/21/2013, 21:40:30 PM by Afagundes

Originally posted by Wisconsinart:
Quoted Message: .What Afagundes is doing is the way to go. Afagundes is more involved with a community of sorts which has its own rewards from mingling with other photographers and perhaps some buyers. But this takes time and work to build relationships and friends. Very little sales, if any, comes from this, but what you learn can be applied to your photography and that is where the payoff comes. In the end, it`s just what others have mentioned: concentrate on producing quality.


Thanks Wisconsinart, I forgot to say something important, I never stopped uploading!

I intend to pass 7000 images online here in 2013.
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Message posted at 03/22/2013, 02:19:17 AM by Robinstockphotos
Good luck with the future uploads Afagundes. You can make it with your experience.

Wisconsinart, I totally agree. I don't really think you get the RIGHT people via social media directly. There are websites that get people to like your page if you pay them $0.02 per like or something like that. Totally ridiculous. All you'd get is an ignorant following who don't care and that "peace of mind" of having 10,000 likes on your page.

So far I got three points:
Have a website for holding customers or others interested.
Concentrate on impressing customers rather than spreading a Facebook page around
Use social media to lure referrals
Even though referrals are useless 99% of the time. None of mine has even completed their profiles. No hope there. haha!

Thanks Afagundes for your statistics. It will really help. Wisconsinart, thanks for confirming.
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