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Stockfreeimages.com - a new beginning

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Achilles
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Message edited at 04/12/2013, 08:42:00 AM by Admin
One year after officially launching Stock Free Images, our free image project has grown nicely, reaching now a fifth of Dreamstime's registrations. We have almost 20,000 new users registering each month with a growing rate of more than 50% in the last 6 months only. Stockfreeimages.com has become the largest collection of visual content that can be licensed for free, being the safe alternative to just 'downloading' images from search engines. Read this blog article for more info on downloading images from search engines: link here

Stockfreeimages brings a significant exposure to Dreamstime's contributors and a very large part of the designers using SFI become Dreamstime customers too. A vast majority of them are new to stock photography and are customers who wouldn't purchase otherwise. By giving them a free product we also educate them about what stock photography represents and move them away of unsafe sources, where they may be facing legal risks and contributors are not compensated.

Given the large collection available and being committed to provide an equitable deal, we launch today a subscription pilot program where SFI becomes a freemium platform. After an initial free startup (10 free downloads), the web resolution will remain free for all visitors, while high resolution files will be available subscription-based only. Members opting for paid access will also benefit from attractive discounts on Dreamstime packages, the discount depending on the plan selected. The licenses granted for the images are Limited Royalty Free RF-LL for all images downloaded free of any charge (web resolution) and standard Royalty Free for paid images. The major difference between the two is related to the number of copies allowed: 10,000 for RF-LL and 500,000 for RF.
Plans begin at $15 (1 week & 10 downloads/day) and the royalties are $0.10 (non exclusives) and $0.12 (exclusive images or exclusive contributors). Of course, these royalties refer only to images available on SFI and do not interfere with Dreamstime's royalties.

The project will remain separate of Dreamstime but all sales will be reported in contributors' accounts on Dreamstime. For now you will see them on your earnings page along with DT sales but as of next week, we will add a separate earnings page to list all sales made via Stockfreeimages. Participation will be possible only through Dreamstime's initial screening (meaning you can't upload directly there). Contributors can either submit images after 4 years of no sales or donate images if they fail current submission but meet some minimum requirements. There is no minimum-online limit, anyone who wants to remove an image can do so from their Dreamstime account at any time (removal is permanent though).

We're hoping this will bring extra revenue, increased volume and will strengthen Dreamstime's position as an innovative leader in stock photography. Image donations still matter for enhanced exposure and traffic-wise and with this change, we're hoping they'll count even more. You made it happen, thank you for believing in the free section. Donations do pay off.


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Dieniti
362 posts
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Message posted at 04/12/2013, 08:36:20 AM by Dieniti
Thanks for the info! Very interesting!
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Angelaravaioli
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Message posted at 04/12/2013, 10:07:05 AM by Angelaravaioli
A question: do we have to go expiry photos under free?
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Yelo34
118 posts
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Message posted at 04/12/2013, 10:10:30 AM by Yelo34
Wow! That is awesome. Now it is worthwile to donate images to the free section even if you are not exclusive. Thanks
Some interesting toys

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Grafoo
785 posts
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Message posted at 04/12/2013, 14:11:04 PM by Grafoo
As always, once again you bring an excellent plan. Thanks DT Team!
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Bradcalkins
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Message posted at 04/12/2013, 14:14:56 PM by Bradcalkins
Interesting idea - hope it drives traffic and revenue!
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Teabum
253 posts
Message posted at 04/12/2013, 16:04:46 PM by Teabum
Very clever, very cool .... And finally a proactive solution for the huge number of free high res images :)
Good work DT
NIKON + Nikkor/auto & Leica/manual lenses

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Brettossman
91 posts
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Message edited at 04/12/2013, 17:16:10 PM by Brettossman
How does this compare to the submission option:

If this submission doesn't qualify for the commercial stock section, I agree to make it available within the free section (RF-LL license).

If I check off this box, does the image go to Stock Free Images?
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Picstudio
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Message posted at 04/12/2013, 22:01:01 PM by Picstudio
Wow! great news........
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Wisconsinart
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Message posted at 04/12/2013, 22:01:01 PM by Wisconsinart
Ten cents for the Contributor, ten cents for DT...

Let's say 10,000 images/day are sold this way. 10k * 365 * ten cents = $365,000/yr. That's barely breaking even when you consider the staff and overhead behind it. But it's still a way to get something for nothing when you consider you're working with free images.

Let's say a Contributor can sell 1,000 images/day. 1000 * 365 * ten cents = $36,500/yr. However, that probably equates to thousands of images you would have given away for free and we all know what it takes to get 10-100 images uploaded each month.

But I know what people are thinking... if my image is rejected, it's a chance to get SOMETHING out of it by sending it out for free. Even if you could get 100 sales/day... 100 * 365 * ten cents = $3,650. Yeah, we're drooling over $3,000 but the catch is getting 100 sales/day. Ain't gonna happen.

I think this is a good idea but it's my fear Contributors are going to flood the free section with more images and take away REAL sales from the pay side.

The free section is meant to be a hook for bringing in paying customers. In order to make the new program work, it's my opinion Contributors should have great restraint in how many images they offer for free.

I would also urge DT to periodically delete images from the free section in order to keep the inventory at a reasonable size so it has minimal impact on the pay side. Really GOOD images should also be deleted from the free section. Again, we don't want extreme competition from the free section. There are advantages to offering free images but if customers want the good stuff then make them come over to the pay side.

Good idea if it's maintained well. Bad idea if the free section is allowed to grow unchecked.
Nikon D800, D100, Canon G15

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Message edited at 04/13/2013, 05:43:29 AM by ChrisVanLennepPhoto
Valid points from Wisconsinart Photographers need to be rewarded for creativity and efforts Cannot give everything away you create
Canon Equipment

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Bobbrooky
480 posts
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Message posted at 04/13/2013, 09:57:20 AM by Bobbrooky
I agree with much of what Wisconsinart stated. But for the last two months I have seen sales, for me anyway, slow down considerably. Also submissions are taking a long time to approve or decline. I would hope that the staff, who do a great job, are not taken away from their prime objective, which is a sales orientated agency, to enhance the stock free image side of DT.
I am all for promotions, and DT creating a higher profile, as long as this does not affect the majority of its contributors.
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Radub85
121 posts
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Message posted at 04/13/2013, 11:24:33 AM by Radub85
After the 4 years pass i will delete the images as i prefer to sell them on other agencies rather than give them here for free or for 2 lousy cents.
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Adeliepenguin
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Message posted at 04/13/2013, 12:47:46 PM by Adeliepenguin
I think it is an interesting program. Most of the people I have talked to who are inexperienced in the world of stock photos want images for free. In addition, most have not heard of Dreamstime. They have heard about our competitors. So, the logic behind the Stock Free Images program makes good sense to me. I look at the program more from the bigger picture, and not from a revenue-generating perspective. I do agree the images need to be carefully maintained.

It would be nice to know, down the road, how effective the program is in bringing new buyers to Dreamstime and improving revenue, particularly since we (the DT community as a whole) are donating our images to the program.
Currently my primary camera is a Fuji XT-1.

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Brettossman
91 posts
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Message posted at 04/13/2013, 13:21:57 PM by Brettossman

Originally posted by Adeliepenguin:
Quoted Message: I think it is an interesting program. Most of the people I have talked to who are inexperienced in the world of stock photos want images for free. In addition, most have not heard of Dreamstime. They have heard about our competitors. So, the logic behind the Stock Free Images program makes good sense to me. I look at the program more from the bigger picture, and not from a revenue-generating perspective. I do agree the images need to be carefully maintained.It would be nice to know, down the road, how effective the program is in bringing new buyers to Dreamstime and improving revenue, particularly since we (the DT community as a whole) are donating our images to the program.


Great points Adeliepenguin.

I stumbled into Dreamstime purely by accident, whereas, I definitely knew about competitors.

I definitely see the concern of those who already established high sales and a reputation. With 800,000 + images on SFI, you are highly likely to find something you can use for free. However, as Achilles noted, the availability of free stuff will become limited.

In regards to marketing, SFI might be a great way for new folks to get exposure (no pun intended LOL). New folks can easily be as good or better than established folks, just nobody knows about them yet. I wonder how much exposure newbies get, say as the result of DT buyer requests, buyers returning to contributors they already know, or prioritization of default search results (no sorting).

Finally, still would like to know how SFI relates to the DT "free area", or does it? Hopefully, will get an answer to that soon.
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Message posted at 04/14/2013, 02:53:58 AM by Robinstockphotos
Read the above post by Wisconsinart!
There are already enough free images everywhere these days. Encouraging use of web resolution images...which is probably in the highest demand right now, it would affect credit sales badly if they are nice enough to be used most of the time.

Admins, you don't just need to maintain a minimum standard....
HAVE AN UPPER STANDARD LIMIT on free photos !!!
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Afagundes
3,249 posts
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Message posted at 04/14/2013, 22:37:35 PM by Afagundes
I don´t know, I still dont get it.

A person download an image for free, he can barely see the name of the photographer on a credit line, I don´t think he will come for this photographer´s portfolio here at DT

Yes, maybe he will come to DT, but not to that specific photographer.

Maybe I am being selfish here, but I would like to have a little more personal promotion if I would give something for free.

Anyway, the move to charge for it, even if its only 10 cents, is a good movement, IMO.
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Enigmacypher
425 posts
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Message posted at 04/14/2013, 22:54:31 PM by Enigmacypher

Originally posted by Achilles:
Quoted Message: Members opting for paid access will also benefit from attractive discounts on Dreamstime packages, the discount depending on the plan selected.


How much of a discount are we talking about?


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Nikitu
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Message posted at 04/15/2013, 01:28:52 AM by Nikitu - member is an admin

Originally posted by Angelaravaioli:
Quoted Message: A question: do we have to go expiry photos under free?

You are given the choice of either deleting the images or donate them as free.
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Nikitu
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Message posted at 04/15/2013, 01:31:33 AM by Nikitu - member is an admin

Originally posted by Brettossman:
Quoted Message: How does this compare to the submission option:If this submission doesn`t qualify for the commercial stock section, I agree to make it available within the free section (RF-LL license).If I check off this box, does the image go to Stock Free Images?

If you check that box the image could go to SFI if the editor selects it. Note that checking that box doesn't imply that the image will be online.
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