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Message posted at 12/31/2013, 20:42:10 PM by Moonbeamimages
Hi,

Is this normal? I have been a member for more than two months, but have not had a single sale. I have 10 images and videos online, and one image has 86 views. But as I said, no sales.

How long time is normal before you get a sale, or is something wrong with my portfolio? You are welcome to have a look.

Thank you in advance for your help.


Uploaded files:49 | Total Sales: 7
Alvera
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Message posted at 12/31/2013, 22:56:39 PM by Alvera
Hi. Your photos are good and stock oriented. But food area is a very large one and will takes time for first sell there. Try to upload more. 10 images are just a drop of water in the ocean. Good luck.
Nikon. 4x4 car for wildlife adventures. Inkscape for vectors...

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Rik57
302 posts
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Message posted at 01/01/2014, 04:41:49 AM by Rik57
There is no normal. I have had a few images online for a few hours with only a few views that sold right away, and too many more online for almost a year with over 200 views with no sales at all.
I have mostly given up trying to figure out what will and will not sell because its a real crapshoot, relying on the near random requirements of clients that may or may not stumble across any given portfolio.

Best just to upload many subjects and let them be while you continue to upload more.

Your images are good. Things will happen.
Canon 40D; 3d Studio Max; Terragen; Photoshop;

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Wisconsinart
1584 posts
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Message posted at 01/01/2014, 13:38:21 PM by Wisconsinart
I've seen others post words of discouragement regarding food images. It could be demand is low for food with competition high.

Regardless, the fact that you only have ten images in two months with expectations of sales to be coming in, I think that's the bigger issue here.

Stock has a huge learning curve. You have to keep uploading, but that alone is not enough. You have to LEARN why some images sell and others don't. If you don't LEARN, increasing inventory will not bring in additional sales.

Stock is raw supply-and-demand. What that means is your images have to be better than the competition. Every excuse imaginable has been discussed as to why some Contributors have virtually no sales, but they are always excuses. If you don't get sales, it's because of (1) Images are poor sellers to begin with or (2) Buyers find better images from someone else.

Your photography is very good. But if you're going to get into commercial photography, then start learning COMMERCIAL photography. There are books, blogs, and forums that tell you everything you need to know. Yet for all the resources available, not one of them tells you how to SUCCEED.

How to SUCCEED is just like anything else in life. Business people, students, athletes, hobbyists, whatever the endeavor, you succeed by DOING and STRIVING to be GOOD at whatever you desire to be successful in.
Nikon D800, D100, Canon G15

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Lenutaidi
3375 posts
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Message posted at 01/02/2014, 16:05:38 PM by Lenutaidi
Don't give up, Moonbeamimages! Keep uploading, reading, learning, shooting! Don't stop! Sales will come! Be patience and persevering! Don't forget the words of our Master Wisconsinart! Good luck!


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Preslav
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Message posted at 01/03/2014, 01:51:12 AM by Preslav
Just think about this:
DT database has almost 21 000 000 photos and you have only 10...
kepp uploading different objects (aspects) like portraits,food,people and so on...
The more you have the better. Keep in mind that you shoud have excellent quality.


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Silent47
336 posts
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Message posted at 01/04/2014, 16:20:42 PM by Silent47

Originally posted by Moonbeamimages:
Quoted Message: Hi,Is this normal? I have been a member for more than two months, but have not had a single sale. I have 10 images and videos online, and one image has 86 views. But as I said, no sales.How long time is normal before you get a sale, or is something wrong with my portfolio? You are welcome to have a look.Thank you in advance for your help.


No ofense but those photos ar looking so..."I have a new passion" like..
Try to researche the market and see what sells.BTW..if 2013 was based on quality try imagining 2014.With those images it will be hard to make some sales..Try learning new things about this business..Your luck is that DT have a lot of members willing to give you informations.I hope that i not offendit you but this is the truth

PS:Excuse my poor english:)
Nikon D7000 / /SB-600 Speedlight /AF-S Micro-Nikkor 60mm f...

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Enigmacypher
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Message edited at 01/12/2014, 15:07:12 PM by Enigmacypher
I'm probably not the best one to offer advice since I only dabble in stock imagery from time to time. However, here is a bit of feedback, and you can take or leave as much of it as you like.

First of all, keep uploading. You learn a great deal from rejections -- especially as you get started. The rejections I received from here greatly changed how I viewed photography -- both my own as well as others'. My eye started improving well before my photography did. Slowly, I think my images have improved as well, but they are no where near the level of the true professionals. If you truly do not understand a reason for a rejection, you can email DT about it and ask for clarification (just be polite and express a willingness to learn). The DT reviewers have occasionally given me INCREDIBLE feedback on an image, and that information really, really helped me to see how I could improve (one even went so far as to show a segment of the image as it should appear and offered advice on better camera settings for the equipment I was using -- needless to say, I was shocked at the unexpected time that that reviewer spent in helping. That's only happened once, but it made me really appreciate DT.) The reviewers are very busy, so I wouldn't ask about rejections very often.

Second, as others have said, your main topic area is already covered greatly in the DT database. That means that you have to have images that can be found when those topics are searched for and then stand out as better than almost all of the others that come up in that search. Before you upload, try searching the DT database for some of the main keywords you think your image matches. See what comes up. How does your image compare? Look at the keywords that others have used, and see if some of those should also be included in your image. Don't add unrelated words, but you can get some ideas of areas you are missing. In that vein, I notice that you are not entering very many keywords. For example, let's look at this image:

   Tomato, Cauliflower, and Cucumber Vegetables in Bo   

You only have 11 keywords. One of these is "background". Yes, your image has a background, but that's not what the image is about. You also have "summer". How does that relate? A bigger problem is that you are missing many, many keywords that should be included. At minimum, you should probably include the singular version of any word that is plural. (DT does an exact string match, so "cucumbers" will not show up for a search for "cucumber".) Also consider adding the following terms: FOOD, HEALTHY, RAW, CHOPPED, DICED, and FRESH. You can probably come up with many more. Keep them relevant, and pick ones that will help your image be found.

Third, do everything you can to improve your images so that they stand out from all the competition. Your images are definitely very good, but they don't stand out from the others. The main thing that I see (again, I'm not a professional), is that your images are somewhat dark. Try getting a reflector to bounce the sunlight more equally around your subjects, use a tripod, and extend the exposure time. Stock images seem to generally be brighter than many other types of photography. You don't have to do this permanently, but give give different styles a try and see what difference it makes.

Sorry for the book. I hope my ramblings are a little bit helpful.


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Brocko
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Message posted at 01/13/2014, 01:20:36 AM by Brocko
My first sale came after 4 months. Wait, upload, drink beer and relax.


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Message edited at 01/13/2014, 19:30:02 PM by Moonbeamimages
Thank you all of you for your great advise!

Silent47: No, you did not offend me. I know my photography is not like the pros. I am new to stock and am slowly learning. Thank you for your post.

enigmacypher: Thank you, very helpful and in depth response. I have a hard time with the keywords, but now I have some new ideas, thank you!


Uploaded files:49 | Total Sales: 7
Message posted at 01/13/2014, 19:30:20 PM by Moonbeamimages
Thank you all of you for your great advise!

Silent47: No, you did not offend me. I know my photography is not like the pros. I am new to stock, and am slowly learning. Thank you for your post.

enigmacypher: Thank you, very helpful and in depth response. I have a hard time with the keywords, but now i have some new ideas, thank you!


Uploaded files:49 | Total Sales: 7
Peanutroaster
1513 posts
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Message posted at 01/14/2014, 06:57:18 AM by Peanutroaster
Name your images for what they are. Its not a "Reaching for the sky" it is a palm tree.
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Godfer
1495 posts
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Message posted at 01/14/2014, 13:49:03 PM by Godfer
I made the mistake t first of naming my images with artistic wording that had nothing to do with the photo. The search uses the title so it is good to use most important search words within the name!
Canon 5D MK II

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