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Model wants to post my pics in her social networks

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Pabloaura
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Message posted at 07/17/2014, 00:26:07 AM by Pabloaura
Hi there, I have a question regarding rights and also common sense:

I've taken several pictures of a girl and I will upload them to Dreamstime, but the model wants me to send them to her so she can post them in her social networks (Facebook, Instagram, twitter), I told her that she can use them for her personal portfolio but not for publishing.
But really maybe there's no reason and she could just publish some small res versions. What do you guys think about that issue?

thanks a bunch!


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Nikitu
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Message posted at 07/17/2014, 02:53:11 AM by Nikitu - member is an admin
It is entirely up to you if you give her permission to use the images or not. Facebook posting is mostly for social reason but publishing the image in other ways could be an issue, so it is your right to ask her not to publish them in other ways than social media.
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Wisconsinart
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Message edited at 07/17/2014, 20:07:29 PM by Wisconsinart
Send small images at 72 dpi. They will display nicely for social media and be useless for just about anything else.
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Glennmart
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Message posted at 07/17/2014, 21:32:18 PM by Glennmart
I'm assuming you paid her as a model for the shoot and got a model release, so you own the copyright?

Short version, if you wanted you could watermark the images in a place that couldn't be cropped out to give you a little exposure, send her small files of say no larger than 800px high and only 72dpi. There's absolutely no control of an image once its posted on the web, especially social media.

If she wants larger images at higher resolutions with no watermark then she likely wants them for her own portfolio and it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask a professional shooting fee for that.
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Message edited at 07/18/2014, 12:01:27 PM by Digitalexpressionimages
I don't know what model release you use, but the one I use and certainly the one Dreamstime provides contains the following clause:

Hereby, the undersigned Photographer grants to the Model permission to use, and/or display, and/or publish photographic portraits or pictures, and/or digital information relevant to them, in which the Model may be included in whole or partly, or modified in form, or reproductions thereof, in color or otherwise, in any format, still, single, multiple, moving or video, made through any media for lawful promotion of the Model, as long as the copyright of the Photographer is clearly presented with the image.

If yours has a similar clause then it's pretty simple what you should do, if you signed your own release.

Personally I find it curious that people would be willing to submit images to Dreamstime to be licensed to complete strangers to use over and over again for a whopping $0.35 and yet would have a problem allowing the model, that helped them create said images, to use them. Especially if they ever want to work with that model again in the future.
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Glennmart
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Message posted at 07/18/2014, 18:24:47 PM by Glennmart
I guess it depends on whether the model was paid money for the shots, or if it was just a friend helping out, no? If paid, the photographer is taking the risk on his/her whopping $0.35 per photo will ever make back their investment, if not paid and it was just someone doing it out of the goodness of their hearts then the altruism could flow both ways.
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Pabloaura
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Message posted at 07/21/2014, 06:09:54 AM by Pabloaura
Thanks very much for the answers.
My concern was more in the way that somewhere I've read or heard that if you publish a photo in FB then automatically becomes a FB property, so somehow it wouldn't be mine to sell anymore. But as I see from your posts, that was maybe some myth floating in the web.
thanks again!


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Sijohnsen
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Message posted at 07/28/2014, 12:17:04 PM by Sijohnsen
Strictly speaking, I believe that social network sites usually have a clause in their terms and conditions which allows them rights on use age of all all images posted on them, Facebook certainly used to. Presumably this wasn't as some sort do attempt to grab the images but a way of covering themselves from possible legal action. I wouldn't really worry too much about a model using images as a way of promoting themselves or someone just using the shots because they are pleased with the way they look. Just make it clear when you provide the shots that they are not for use in a commercial environment, so no sending to magazines etc. without your explicit permission.
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